i take taekwondo and i love martial arts. recently ive been really frustrated with lots of people who think they know about martial arts. the most annoying thing is when people say a certain style is not affective. most of the people saying that dont even take the style so how would you know? also i hate how people think martial arts is all about learning how to beat someone up. martial arts were created to teach self defence and other principles to make a better person. mma organizations like ufc and pride shouldnt be called really martial arts. they learn ma to beat the other people up for money and glory. people thinking that sparring is fighting bugs me too. i have a friend who asks what is the purpose of sparring if you aren%26#039;t trying to beat the other person up as much as you can. sparring is an activity that builds strength, focus, technique, speed, sportsmanship, and reflex. it%26#039;s not just a fight with protective gear.people who dont know ma should shut up
thank u
Whats with these people?
All I can say is %26quot;what yupchagee said%26quot;.
Well said.
Sparring is not fighting and fighting is not sparring. Simple.
Ok, I never stop with something simple so here is some more:
One thing most people do not realize about martial artists is the true, traditional ones are NOT badasses. They are the calmest, most controlled people you can ever hope to meet.
No REAL martial artist is going to be braggiose or pick fights.
I believe real martial artists can, indeed, compete but that is their sport, not their ART. The problem is most competition martial artists fall to the accolade accorded them for their prowess in fighting and lose sight of the real martial arts.
That is sad. I have seen this happen with quite a few.
Reply:well i think neither
Reply:ive had a little experience in several martial arts, and tae kwondo is my favrit style. its also the one im most experience in. i made it to advanced blue belt, but i personaly dont like the belt system. i prefer measuring experience by how long the art was studied. unfortunately i didnt feel that way when i was taking tae kwondo so i didnt really count how many years i was in so i dont know. it was like 4 or sumthin in that ballpark.
Reply:I think you need a blog dude. Screw em. You know what you know. If they are ignorant and stuck in their ways just nod man. Nod and walk away.
Reply:I agree with everything you say. Most people are completely ignorant when it comes to Martial Arts. All they know is movies %26amp; MMA shows. They don%26#039;t seem to realize that movies are fantasy %26amp; MMA, no matter how many times they describe themselves as %26quot;Ultimate fighters%26quot; is nothing more than sport. There are rules that don%26#039;t exist in the real world so things that work in the ring won%26#039;t work on the street.
All we can do is try to educate people 1 at a time.
Reply:You%26#039;ve invested too much time in this, my friend, and you%26#039;ve gotten yourself offended by something you cannot change. Their words can only hurt you if you allow them to. My advice is ignore what you know to be false, and continue to grow in your craft. Keep your tongue silent and let the other wallow in their own self-crapulence.
Reply:I am a desciple of Tang Soo Do.Most people outside of the circle believe in the positivity of our %26quot;arts%26quot;.Only the people who want to practice what we do add thier cheap 2 cents.It%26#039;s all about male pride and dominance.Especially with MA,men want to appear as knowledgable as humanly possible.this should not upset a true desciple of the arts.this type of know it all jacka** should only make us laugh and become a bit more proud of how hard we really train. As far as the pride fighting goes,these fellas started out just like us,at the beginning.they all need MA training.These are very tough men.As we have learned from sparring,how different it is in the ring.Strong focus and being very fast is what prompts success.In short,these are some guys who got good and let it get to thier heads.Keep training your mind as well as your body.Peace
Reply:how do you know?what qualifies you to decide that someone else is wrong?your typical of the know all know nothings,which is a hell of a lot of ppl on this site.ppl like youshit me you come on here and ask a question but you only wanna hear your own opinion?iv%26#039;e been doing ma for 39 years iv%26#039;e taught hundreds of students,and i mean hard i dont teachpussies.any 1 of my students will attest to that.iv%26#039;e had more fights than youv%26#039;e had craps,i mean real ones.i may not know eveything about ma but i know what works and what doesn%26#039;t.and i know how to really kill someone,not just carry on withshit about dim mak and all the othercrap ppl go on with here.and i%26#039;m not the only person like that.everyones entitled to there opinion but you dont have to be einstein to work out the ppl that think they know and the ppl that really do.ppl should take note of the ppl that do know instead of trying to bag them.just because you dont like the way someone puts something doesn%26#039;t mean thier wrong.and i%26#039;m not bragging or talkingshit i%26#039;m stating facts.now you seem to know so much you tell me why i%26#039;m wrong?and if you were a martial artist you wouldn%26#039;t be telling ppl to shut up.
Reply:unfortunately dude not everyone thinks along the same lines as you do.
and therefore you%26#039;ll have instances where people will misuse what they%26#039;ve learned. along with people who think that Martial Arts is just about beating someone up just because they bumped in to you or got in your face.
When it never had ANYTHING to do with that to begin with.
and sport fighting has been around since the early years of the Greeks and Romans, the Mayans, or the Egyptians, even the Indonesian people.
these fight groups like UFC, PRIDE, IFL, all they%26#039;re doing is taking Martial Arts as a sport to the next level, of course MMA (because if you haven%26#039;t noticed, the only two Martial Arts disciplines they seem to care about most is Muay Thai, and Jujitsu)is not a Martial Arts discipline in itself , but the benefit of learning two disciplines to help the individual become a more well rounded fighter.
and theses people that you hear blasting other disciplines are poppin off just because they can, this is a Q%26amp;A forum , and they can run their mouths however they wish no matter how wrong or misguided it is.
Reply:what ever. I dont think you can call it anything but a sport.
thats nothing to be ashamed of. but it is still a sport. there are no TKD bouncers in my city, at all.
you find Muay Thai is a majority or boxing. some CQC.
why? not because TKD people hover in a zen cloud and dont want violence, but because MT and boxing are great tools in a fight outside the gym/dojo or tournament.
and for EVERYONE here. never believe you can fight until you have. regardless of your style/system/art. dont believe what your instructor says, or your mom, or friend, or your trophy cabinet tells you...
katas do not equal fighting, points do not equal fighting. tournaments and sparring are not fighting. they are events that have the players attempting to out combo their opponent for success and skill development.
fights want one man smashed and injured as fast and as evil as possible.
unless you have tested yourself against the unknown quanta of real life and danger, you dont know sh!t about your art, its effectiveness, or yourself.
and I personally do not like TKD for that matter, because you dont teach people the value of knees and elbows. why the hell not? they are attached to your body, and are great personal range weapons with tremendous damage potential. why not teach the things that work?
oh yeah, because its a sport...
and what sup with this continued comment %26quot;real martial artists...blah blah%26quot; define a real martial artist, go on.
we do what we do for our own reasons. think for yourselves people. I have done traditional, but I cannot be bothered bowing to dead people. traditional arts create more calm people, well, thats great, but I prefer to study for action and violence. I dont work at burger king, but in a more volatile environment.
there is no %26quot;REAL martial artist%26quot;, only individual perspectives on what it means... to me it means perfecting the ability to crush the enemy faster than he does me. I dont want to walk on water or meditate on OM.
I am no perfect weapon or a badass, but I dont delude myself with incense and tiger balm either. if you are never tested with the randomness of life outside the training hall, you are only safe within the hall.
we must always walk in 2 places people: the training hall, and the real world. dont believe they are the same.
Reply:FINALLY! another student that actually knows the real reason for martial arts! i hate it when people learn it just do beat each other up too!! it%26#039;s not just a physical thing it%26#039;s a mind set...I%26#039;ve been doing tae kwon do since i was about 10(I%26#039;m 19) and it%26#039;s really made me who i am today..it%26#039;s taught me maturity, patience, responsibility, and self control...
Reply:Put it simply art is a kind of art like dancing which is good for body and soul, sport is sport governed by rules and with points for winning, the real thing is terrible and you should not be there at all!!
Reply:It%26#039;s obiviously you have never met a real fighter. I guess you think all those fighters do nothing but sit in locker talk sh*t, lift weight, drink protein shake, and beat people up. Actually if you were to meet at least 5 to 10 fighters, you%26#039;ll find more than 80% of them are incredible humble, respectful, and nice. Hell many of them are somewhat shy or %26quot;geeky%26quot;. The reason many MMAist or fighters isn%26#039;t afaird to voice out their opinion is because of their training enviroment.
Think about this, if you were a firefighter. You spent years bust your *** training for it. You%26#039;re very aware of the risk and everything. Then someone come and try to talk about how you do everything wrong, do you really think you would want to sit down and listen to someone without any real experience? I%26#039;m sure you would tell them to get lost.
by the way you%26#039;re welcome to go to your mom%26#039;s house and cry it all out, she%26#039;ll fix you a hot coca, you can dress up in pammie so you two can cuddle up and watch Disney movie while she lie to you about how great of martial artist you are if that will help you feel better.
Reply:I agree!
As a matter of fact I might even go farther...
When it comes to the INTERNAL martial arts, we are talking
about philosophy and a way of life, not just a %26quot;contact sport%26quot;!
Reply:I%26#039;m with Rikkar on this. And, like him I can%26#039;t just let it go at that without a little bit of soapbox rant:
MMA events such as Pride and UFC are martial arts. They are about combat which is what the martial arts are about. Having said that, not all martial artists train for combat. They don%26#039;t all train for sports. They don%26#039;t all train for enlightenment, self defense, self discipline, or any of the other reasons people train. Everyone trains for their own purpose.
In the early days of the UFC, they would introduce the fighters and if you notice, none of them were above a 2nd or 3rd degree black belt. Why? Because at that level, you posses a combination of skill and youth but you may lack a bit of maturity. If you continue training, you may come to realize that you no longer need to prove anything to anyone.
I don%26#039;t care what other people think about me, the styles I%26#039;ve studied, or the car I drive. I do what I do. I know what I know. Do I have to climb into a ring and beat some guy up to prove that I%26#039;m tough? No. Do I care that you may think that makes me weak, a coward, or that my style isn%26#039;t good enough? Not at all. People are going to think what they think no matter what.
A Shaolin Monk could climb in the ring with the UFC champion and wipe the floor with him and there are those who would still make excuses as to why the Monk won.
Everyone has an opinion. Even the ones you don%26#039;t agree with, if stated respectfully, can be valid. If people on this forum would state their views in a more respectful manner than just saying %26#039;I%26#039;m right and your opinion is crap%26#039;, then we might be able to learn something from each other.
End of rant.
Reply:martial arts was created for defense so the ufc is showing you what it takes if you were ever in that situation... TKD ? if you like it do everyone a favor %26amp; stick with it . you are being a hipocrit by judging other mma%26#039;ers ya know! just wanted to point that out.
when your ready to learn how to defend yourself you%26#039;ll know where to go.your school is a franchised art that can teach anything NEW without someones okay first. plus whats that that you cant make eye contact with a higher up unless they look at you. thats degrading. anyway your school has well over 20, thousand students across america and out of those hundreds of schools there are only 10 top competitors. that sais enough right there. you will never be a martial; artist with those thoughts
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