I heard that ninjitsu teaches dim mak. Is that tru?
What other Martial Arts styles teach dim mak?
Does Ninjitsu teach Dim Mak?
Ninjitsu is a dead art. Several Shaolin %26amp; Okinawan styles put a lot of emphasis on Dim Mak.
Reply:no hapkido or kang du kwan
Reply:Hapkido does not teach this bogus idea. I have been in Hapkido for 3 years so don%26#039;t go there....
Dim mak is a myth and an attempt to gain %26quot;customers%26quot; through tricking people. If anything it is preassure point fighting which is next to worthless. I have never seen in my 15 years of martial arts, preassure point fighting work.... ever... period. Ninjitsu is about the same thing.... a joke. The last person to teach it will take it to the grave with him in the mountains of Japan. Its an idea now, not an art.
Dillman is a fraud and an idiot for making people he can do that no touch knock out thing. Dim mak and Dillman only work on their clones and cult members... its BS
Reply:well yes and no. im sure there are true ninja out there, but they dont have dojos and take students for money like most martial arts. but im sure there are schools out there that teach ninjitsu technique. as for the %26quot;death touch%26quot;? nope, youll be hard pressed to find a ninja master who wants to teach that to you without DECADES of dedication
Reply:I don%26#039;t think so. Ninjas used tools %26amp; stealth. The original ninjas used hand to hand as a last resort. They were assassins, hit men. They stealthed their way in, used whatever tool necessary to do the job including sword, poison tipped shrikuns, poison, hooks and a number of other nasties. They would not take a chance on a hand to hand show down and raise everyones attention. Now they might have progressed in the latter century.
Now, I also disagree with Hood_12. I have learned from Mr Dillman and bought my learning back to Texas and tried them on laypersons, my students without telling them they were getting put to sleep and it worked 80+% of the time. Dim Mak originally came from China to Okinawa them Japan.
Hope this helps.
Char donn
Reply:the %26quot;Dim Mak%26quot; is only useful if you are fighting leprechauns.
Quit believing everything you hear.
Reply:ninjitsu is not dead, but it is certainly hard to find a dojo. i have never heard of ninjitsu teaching the dim mak and i dont think they do.
Reply:Ninjitsu teaches it only when you can fly to the moon and retrieve moon rocks for the temple.
dim mak, and indeed any pressure point fighting methods should only be used as an esoteric knowledge. they are not applicable in reality, but only as curios to add to your current knowledge of the body-mind mysteries.
real fighting doesnt have people standing still. so use it at your peril. pressure points are better used for healing than hurting.
Reply:No. Honestly if Dim Mak did exist it is almost gone today. There are those who claim to teach it, but most of them have been discredited at frauds. There are videos on Youtube about this, look up Dim Mak there and you%26#039;ll see them. Anyone in the US or UK claiming to teach it I%26#039;d consider a fake. There is one Tai Chi Chuan teacher in China that might be the real thing, Chris Crudelli confirmed his power on the BBC show %26quot;Mind, Body and Kick *** Moves%26quot; but Dim Mak wasn%26#039;t used against Chris, only smaller more simple Chi moves were.
Reply:Dim Mak is fake and only fools would believe in it. If you actually pay someone money to teach you this then you are crazy.
hey Chardon55 did you say you put your students to sleep without telling them. If you are like that then there is no way you should be a MA teacher. you are taking advantage of people. But really i think you are just making it up to pretend you can do something
Reply:It is included in the legendary teachings. It is, quite simply, the striking of pressure points to do specific, and lasting, damage.
In this dark time, self instruction is the only path.
Most Martial students are never exposed to the medical side of the arts. And it is in the study of biology that some of these secrets reveal themselves.
Buy an anatomy book.
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Sunday, April 26, 2009
What style...?
What martial arts style is based around using the weak points on the opponent’s body when the opponent is attacking, moving, or defending? I%26#039;m not talking about pressure points, but using the opponent’s movement against them? Lets say the opponent were to take steps with the right foot facing forward and you attack a specific point on the body to harm the opponent or make the advisory immobile? Also the style uses the environment to his/her advantage and uses specific attacks pending on the opponent’s size, weight, and body type against them; during specific times of the day, week, or year?
I was thinking Tai-Chi, but I wasn’t sure.
What style...?
Shotokan uses some of these ideas. It%26#039;s all about finding you%26#039;re opponents weak points, and using their movements against them. For example, if you were going to takedown or flip someone, you would wait until they had attacked, and use their momentum to keep them going. We also use lots of %26quot;Guiding Blocks%26quot; which instead of just stopping the attack head on, it guides it past you, so that you can attack you%26#039;re opponent as he/she goes past. The style was developed so that commoners could defend themselves against samurai with armor and swords, so it really isn%26#039;t about brute force, but about finding a way to immobilize your opponent, without getting hit. It teaches about the best spots to hit, like the solar plexus, or the throat, or the chin. Not pressure points, but places that will drop whoever is attacking you. We also say that there is no first attack, because it%26#039;s all about defending yourself. I%26#039;m not sure what you mean when you say %26quot;environment%26quot;, but there%26#039;s always the possibility of taking your opponents weapon. There is actually a kata (form) that focuses on using your opponents bo staff against him/her.
As for the specific times of the day, week, or year, as far as I know it doesn%26#039;t use that, but I hope that this was somewhat helpful.
Reply:Jujutsu maybe? Oh wait, are you thinking akidio like Steven Seagal does?
Reply:What you are describing is part and parcel of any Okinawan style karate and some of the Chinese styles, provided the insrtuctor is well versed (20 years or more) in his style. Not all instructors meet these standards. It is OK to interview an instructor before joining a dojo and determine his level of experience and expertise. After all, it%26#039;s your money and time that will be on the line. Find out how deep his knowledge runs.
Reply:well we will get this out of the way first-tai-chi is not a martial art. as it is not adopted as part of the training curriculum of any of the worlds armed forces (for use on the battlefeild) it cannot be classed as so. most martial and fighting arts if taught correctly utilise attacks to an opponents weaker points-the knees being a classic weak spot in all humans irrespective of build/fighting ability or style-if you can get a clean technique to the side of the knee you will have your man-same applies to the sturnum and line of the jaw. i also teach my students %26quot;if you can stop a man doing three things-seeing/breathing (or rather the restriction of)/ and walking he%26#039;s yours%26quot;-this is very true. i teach such technques regularly in TKD.
Reply:Combative tai-chi is effective is this matter, but to be honest I can%26#039;t tell you a whole lot behind it.
Two that come to mind right away from your description is aikido and wing chun.
Aikido is funny in that some of the joint locks, when performed by smaller people on big tough guys, make the tough guys cry. I do aiki and I am a small, skinny girl. Some of my ukes are huge. I use aiki patterns (circular footwork and movements) to throw much larger men. Un-educated people will tell you it%26#039;s magic and it doesn%26#039;t work. It does- it just takes a long time to learn for most people because it is so different. Besides using a person%26#039;s own body to your advantage, you can alter the direction of techniques to dump people whereever you want (say, onto a concrete floor, or a wall). Aiki, despite being the %26#039;gentle art%26#039; can be quite brutal.
Now wing chun uses very efficient liner movements. The shortest distance between points A and B is always a straight line :). I%26#039;ve seen blocks in wing chun were a guy will punch, the teacher will deflect and use that same punch to hit the guy in his own face. It%26#039;s weird, but it%26#039;s nice, I think. I hope that helps you.
Reply:tai chi
:)
your correct
Reply:only 5 that i personally know of there might be more
akido, ju jitsu, hap ki do(one that is real and not just tae wkon do dressed up), somthing called combat tai chi, wing chun(this sytem could be one of many with a similar name but the one that does sticky hands)
Reply:Aikido
Reply:Most martial arts use some of these principals.
I was thinking Tai-Chi, but I wasn’t sure.
What style...?
Shotokan uses some of these ideas. It%26#039;s all about finding you%26#039;re opponents weak points, and using their movements against them. For example, if you were going to takedown or flip someone, you would wait until they had attacked, and use their momentum to keep them going. We also use lots of %26quot;Guiding Blocks%26quot; which instead of just stopping the attack head on, it guides it past you, so that you can attack you%26#039;re opponent as he/she goes past. The style was developed so that commoners could defend themselves against samurai with armor and swords, so it really isn%26#039;t about brute force, but about finding a way to immobilize your opponent, without getting hit. It teaches about the best spots to hit, like the solar plexus, or the throat, or the chin. Not pressure points, but places that will drop whoever is attacking you. We also say that there is no first attack, because it%26#039;s all about defending yourself. I%26#039;m not sure what you mean when you say %26quot;environment%26quot;, but there%26#039;s always the possibility of taking your opponents weapon. There is actually a kata (form) that focuses on using your opponents bo staff against him/her.
As for the specific times of the day, week, or year, as far as I know it doesn%26#039;t use that, but I hope that this was somewhat helpful.
Reply:Jujutsu maybe? Oh wait, are you thinking akidio like Steven Seagal does?
Reply:What you are describing is part and parcel of any Okinawan style karate and some of the Chinese styles, provided the insrtuctor is well versed (20 years or more) in his style. Not all instructors meet these standards. It is OK to interview an instructor before joining a dojo and determine his level of experience and expertise. After all, it%26#039;s your money and time that will be on the line. Find out how deep his knowledge runs.
Reply:well we will get this out of the way first-tai-chi is not a martial art. as it is not adopted as part of the training curriculum of any of the worlds armed forces (for use on the battlefeild) it cannot be classed as so. most martial and fighting arts if taught correctly utilise attacks to an opponents weaker points-the knees being a classic weak spot in all humans irrespective of build/fighting ability or style-if you can get a clean technique to the side of the knee you will have your man-same applies to the sturnum and line of the jaw. i also teach my students %26quot;if you can stop a man doing three things-seeing/breathing (or rather the restriction of)/ and walking he%26#039;s yours%26quot;-this is very true. i teach such technques regularly in TKD.
Reply:Combative tai-chi is effective is this matter, but to be honest I can%26#039;t tell you a whole lot behind it.
Two that come to mind right away from your description is aikido and wing chun.
Aikido is funny in that some of the joint locks, when performed by smaller people on big tough guys, make the tough guys cry. I do aiki and I am a small, skinny girl. Some of my ukes are huge. I use aiki patterns (circular footwork and movements) to throw much larger men. Un-educated people will tell you it%26#039;s magic and it doesn%26#039;t work. It does- it just takes a long time to learn for most people because it is so different. Besides using a person%26#039;s own body to your advantage, you can alter the direction of techniques to dump people whereever you want (say, onto a concrete floor, or a wall). Aiki, despite being the %26#039;gentle art%26#039; can be quite brutal.
Now wing chun uses very efficient liner movements. The shortest distance between points A and B is always a straight line :). I%26#039;ve seen blocks in wing chun were a guy will punch, the teacher will deflect and use that same punch to hit the guy in his own face. It%26#039;s weird, but it%26#039;s nice, I think. I hope that helps you.
Reply:tai chi
:)
your correct
Reply:only 5 that i personally know of there might be more
akido, ju jitsu, hap ki do(one that is real and not just tae wkon do dressed up), somthing called combat tai chi, wing chun(this sytem could be one of many with a similar name but the one that does sticky hands)
Reply:Aikido
Reply:Most martial arts use some of these principals.
Have you ever been in a martial arts class?
If so, what style?
Have you ever been in a martial arts class?
Yes. Tae Kwon Do. Every day, some days more than 1.
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Have you ever been in a martial arts class?
Yes. Tae Kwon Do. Every day, some days more than 1.
purchase flowers
I need to Find a "Good" Martial Arts School in NYC.?
Any style, just a good place to learn, bond and grow.
I need to Find a %26quot;Good%26quot; Martial Arts School in NYC.?
A really good school is Delgado Karate Sport. It is located on
1905 White Plains Rd. It is a great school because sensei teaches you lots of cool stuff like how to defend your self on the street, and how to spar and grapple. It is very fun to go in tournaments and you get good workouts, and become very fit! If you want to try it call : 718-904-1403!
Reply:What type of training are you looking for.
NYC is one of the few places where you actually can be selective.
drop the %26quot;bond%26quot; and %26quot;grow%26quot; stuff, this isn%26#039;t community service.
message me with specifics if you want.
Do you want more of a legit TMA?
a more sportative art based school (absurdly easy to find in NYC- boxing, muai thai, san da/san shao)
or a more grappling oriented school (bjj-that one is almost a giveaway to find, sambo, judo)
what borough are you in and do you have trouble travelling to other boroughs?
Reply:http://www.isshinryu.net/dojo/huntingt.h...
I met Master Latimer in 96, he is quite impressive.
Reply:Chinese Shao-Lin Center
Panetta Movement Center
214 W 29th St Ste. 1001
New York, NY 10001
917-628-6436
Head Instructor: Thad Wong 4th Degree Black Belt
I need to Find a %26quot;Good%26quot; Martial Arts School in NYC.?
A really good school is Delgado Karate Sport. It is located on
1905 White Plains Rd. It is a great school because sensei teaches you lots of cool stuff like how to defend your self on the street, and how to spar and grapple. It is very fun to go in tournaments and you get good workouts, and become very fit! If you want to try it call : 718-904-1403!
Reply:What type of training are you looking for.
NYC is one of the few places where you actually can be selective.
drop the %26quot;bond%26quot; and %26quot;grow%26quot; stuff, this isn%26#039;t community service.
message me with specifics if you want.
Do you want more of a legit TMA?
a more sportative art based school (absurdly easy to find in NYC- boxing, muai thai, san da/san shao)
or a more grappling oriented school (bjj-that one is almost a giveaway to find, sambo, judo)
what borough are you in and do you have trouble travelling to other boroughs?
Reply:http://www.isshinryu.net/dojo/huntingt.h...
I met Master Latimer in 96, he is quite impressive.
Reply:Chinese Shao-Lin Center
Panetta Movement Center
214 W 29th St Ste. 1001
New York, NY 10001
917-628-6436
Head Instructor: Thad Wong 4th Degree Black Belt
What percentge of students in your martial arts class are female/male?
tell me the percentage like this : 60/40 females, or 70/30 males or whatever. also include what style you are going for, or teaching, ex: judo, karate, tae kwon do, and a vague description of where you live, your state oryour region.
where i go its about 80/20 females, its karate, and its in the midwest.
(also interestingly enough i noticed its about 70/30 males in the kids classes and the adult classes are completely the other way around)
What percentge of students in your martial arts class are female/male?
I received my black belt in tkd in 2000, under the leadership of Ernie Reyes%26#039; West Coast Martial Arts in California.
Starting out most were men when we began in 1996, maybe 60/40. Most of the men dropped out for various reasons. For black belt testing we had 3 women, 1 man and 3 teens.
I am not sure how many went on to 2nd degree because I had four unexpected major surgeries beginning three months after black belt. Bahhhhh! I really wanted to go on and be 3rd degree by now. %26lt;sigh%26gt;
All of my Masters said that 1st degree black is %26quot;the%26quot; belt and no other could even compare with it. That made me so happy. I felt so much inner strength that helped me through, in all, 118 days of surgeries and hospitalization. My black belt and my broken concrete block were on the dresser near the bed. When the pain became unbearable, I would look at them and whisper, %26quot;Never quit! Never give up! You are a black belt!%26quot;
I honestly don%26#039;t think I would have made it had I not shed blood, sweat and tears for that belt. I love the strong inner woman that tkd has made of me, although right now I couldn%26#039;t even spar with a snail.
BTW, I received my black belt at 60. It%26#039;s never too late to try!
Reply:in my boxing club there arent any females that come on a regular basis.
in my mixed martial arts club there are heaps of females prolly 60% females to 40% males
Reply:i have quite a bit of females in my class, many classes the girls out number the guys, so it%26#039;s about 50/50 i take karate in New York.
Reply:I take Tae Kwon Do, and I live in the Midwest as well.
I would have to say that collectively (adults and children together), the entire student population of my school is about 30% female and 70% male.
More men stick around after black belt than females, but the women are still just as dedicated to their training.
Reply:In the dojo where I train the mix is about 60/40 male/female. I train Isshin-Ryu karate in Michigan.
Reply:20/4 girls,it%26#039;s a small class!I do Tai Chi and Wushu!
I live in Craiova-Romania
Reply:Are you looking for percentage or Ratio? The ratio of my classes are about (and this is guesswork) 2/10, female/male. The percentage is 20% female.
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where i go its about 80/20 females, its karate, and its in the midwest.
(also interestingly enough i noticed its about 70/30 males in the kids classes and the adult classes are completely the other way around)
What percentge of students in your martial arts class are female/male?
I received my black belt in tkd in 2000, under the leadership of Ernie Reyes%26#039; West Coast Martial Arts in California.
Starting out most were men when we began in 1996, maybe 60/40. Most of the men dropped out for various reasons. For black belt testing we had 3 women, 1 man and 3 teens.
I am not sure how many went on to 2nd degree because I had four unexpected major surgeries beginning three months after black belt. Bahhhhh! I really wanted to go on and be 3rd degree by now. %26lt;sigh%26gt;
All of my Masters said that 1st degree black is %26quot;the%26quot; belt and no other could even compare with it. That made me so happy. I felt so much inner strength that helped me through, in all, 118 days of surgeries and hospitalization. My black belt and my broken concrete block were on the dresser near the bed. When the pain became unbearable, I would look at them and whisper, %26quot;Never quit! Never give up! You are a black belt!%26quot;
I honestly don%26#039;t think I would have made it had I not shed blood, sweat and tears for that belt. I love the strong inner woman that tkd has made of me, although right now I couldn%26#039;t even spar with a snail.
BTW, I received my black belt at 60. It%26#039;s never too late to try!
Reply:in my boxing club there arent any females that come on a regular basis.
in my mixed martial arts club there are heaps of females prolly 60% females to 40% males
Reply:i have quite a bit of females in my class, many classes the girls out number the guys, so it%26#039;s about 50/50 i take karate in New York.
Reply:I take Tae Kwon Do, and I live in the Midwest as well.
I would have to say that collectively (adults and children together), the entire student population of my school is about 30% female and 70% male.
More men stick around after black belt than females, but the women are still just as dedicated to their training.
Reply:In the dojo where I train the mix is about 60/40 male/female. I train Isshin-Ryu karate in Michigan.
Reply:20/4 girls,it%26#039;s a small class!I do Tai Chi and Wushu!
I live in Craiova-Romania
Reply:Are you looking for percentage or Ratio? The ratio of my classes are about (and this is guesswork) 2/10, female/male. The percentage is 20% female.
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What is a good martial arts to get involved in if you are to fat to do the kicks in Tae Kwon Do?
I like Tae kwon do but my legs just don%26#039;t reach. I play football and Im in good shape but not for Tae kwon do. What other fighting style would be good for a large framed person?
What is a good martial arts to get involved in if you are to fat to do the kicks in Tae Kwon Do?
Your oppurtunities for martial arts are still very open. Based on your brief description, you can take almost any other art form that does not require high kicking. Judo, Aikido, Karate, Kenpo, Escrima, Krav Maga, Tai Chi,Jeet Kune Do, etc.
Reply:Tai Chi
Reply:You might consider judo. It would be more suited to a large frame. Also Sho-rin-ru Karate might be good. There is some kicking involved, but not the above the head kicks of Tae kwon do and it involves a lot of punching techniques. Akido is another form which might work well with larger size.
Reply:Grappling styles might work for you if you don%26#039;t wish to kick. I would personally suggest jujutsu (Because Japanese styles teach fighting on all ranges, with the majority of time spent on grappling), as it is great for one-on-one in the streets. (Not to say it is better, but it is great for one-on-one combat)
There%26#039;s a few kicking arts that you don%26#039;t have to kick high in necessarilly, but you have to search disciplines and more importantly the certain schools. Tae Kwon Do isn%26#039;t 100% high flying spinning kicks either: That%26#039;s just a component of the style.
I would advise you take Tae Kwon Do or another high/mixed height striking art to get in tune with that range (And your build makes it harder: It doesn%26#039;t impede from kicking, but it might make it harder to be a good kicker, which isn%26#039;t the best fighting range by itself anyway :p), but hey....
Other suggestions: Boxing, certain styles of kung fu that are almost completely based on softness/mix and little to no kicking (Wing Chun is a good example), certain styles of Karate, and more.
It%26#039;s really not the style, but you should look for a good school. Who knows? They may accomodate for you, and even if you do pick a high kicking style: You aren%26#039;t guaranteed to get thinner, but your fitness level will go up, and that includes flexibility. Call local schools, and get in touch with the teachers: You%26#039;re bound to find someone that will take you under their wing.
Good luck.
Reply:My recommendation for you would be Hapkido. Hapkido is a Korean Martial Art and my Instructor is grandmaster Seo, In Sun of the World KIDO Federation.
With Hapkido, you don%26#039;t kick high and you don%26#039;t do the sporting aspect such as TKD does.
If you need more help contact me from my web site at:
http://www.sungjado.org
Dr. George Petrotta, 8th Dan Hapkido
Reply:Tai-Chi will definitely improve your flexibility and quite likely your football playing just as an added benefit. But as a fighting style, I do not think it will move you.
For a more active martial art, in addition to the Tai-Chi you can study Kung Fu. These Chinese arts teach us to be much more flexible than we know ourselves to be. They are not hard martial arts, they are soft styles. Might be a perfect balance for you.
Reply:Judo.
A lot of ex-football players go into Judo like Rhadi Ferguson who went to the Olympics in Greece.
Reply:Judo and Aikido are perfect for large individuals. The techniques involved require a stable base so your heavy weight and bulk will help a lot. Just look at two of the best known proponents of Judo and Aikido, %26quot;Judo%26quot; Gene Lebell and Steven Seagal are pretty heavy and fat, but can still effectively throw their weight and other people around. Besides, you could always take up Sumo westling : P
Reply:Hap Kia Do it is a good fightingstyle for all sizes it is more intense than TKD but is a lot of fun
Reply:im like obese. very overweight, but my kicks do fine O_O u could do some stretching everyday for 20mins.
lily
What is a good martial arts to get involved in if you are to fat to do the kicks in Tae Kwon Do?
Your oppurtunities for martial arts are still very open. Based on your brief description, you can take almost any other art form that does not require high kicking. Judo, Aikido, Karate, Kenpo, Escrima, Krav Maga, Tai Chi,Jeet Kune Do, etc.
Reply:Tai Chi
Reply:You might consider judo. It would be more suited to a large frame. Also Sho-rin-ru Karate might be good. There is some kicking involved, but not the above the head kicks of Tae kwon do and it involves a lot of punching techniques. Akido is another form which might work well with larger size.
Reply:Grappling styles might work for you if you don%26#039;t wish to kick. I would personally suggest jujutsu (Because Japanese styles teach fighting on all ranges, with the majority of time spent on grappling), as it is great for one-on-one in the streets. (Not to say it is better, but it is great for one-on-one combat)
There%26#039;s a few kicking arts that you don%26#039;t have to kick high in necessarilly, but you have to search disciplines and more importantly the certain schools. Tae Kwon Do isn%26#039;t 100% high flying spinning kicks either: That%26#039;s just a component of the style.
I would advise you take Tae Kwon Do or another high/mixed height striking art to get in tune with that range (And your build makes it harder: It doesn%26#039;t impede from kicking, but it might make it harder to be a good kicker, which isn%26#039;t the best fighting range by itself anyway :p), but hey....
Other suggestions: Boxing, certain styles of kung fu that are almost completely based on softness/mix and little to no kicking (Wing Chun is a good example), certain styles of Karate, and more.
It%26#039;s really not the style, but you should look for a good school. Who knows? They may accomodate for you, and even if you do pick a high kicking style: You aren%26#039;t guaranteed to get thinner, but your fitness level will go up, and that includes flexibility. Call local schools, and get in touch with the teachers: You%26#039;re bound to find someone that will take you under their wing.
Good luck.
Reply:My recommendation for you would be Hapkido. Hapkido is a Korean Martial Art and my Instructor is grandmaster Seo, In Sun of the World KIDO Federation.
With Hapkido, you don%26#039;t kick high and you don%26#039;t do the sporting aspect such as TKD does.
If you need more help contact me from my web site at:
http://www.sungjado.org
Dr. George Petrotta, 8th Dan Hapkido
Reply:Tai-Chi will definitely improve your flexibility and quite likely your football playing just as an added benefit. But as a fighting style, I do not think it will move you.
For a more active martial art, in addition to the Tai-Chi you can study Kung Fu. These Chinese arts teach us to be much more flexible than we know ourselves to be. They are not hard martial arts, they are soft styles. Might be a perfect balance for you.
Reply:Judo.
A lot of ex-football players go into Judo like Rhadi Ferguson who went to the Olympics in Greece.
Reply:Judo and Aikido are perfect for large individuals. The techniques involved require a stable base so your heavy weight and bulk will help a lot. Just look at two of the best known proponents of Judo and Aikido, %26quot;Judo%26quot; Gene Lebell and Steven Seagal are pretty heavy and fat, but can still effectively throw their weight and other people around. Besides, you could always take up Sumo westling : P
Reply:Hap Kia Do it is a good fightingstyle for all sizes it is more intense than TKD but is a lot of fun
Reply:im like obese. very overweight, but my kicks do fine O_O u could do some stretching everyday for 20mins.
lily
What other type of martial arts should i take other than choy li fut???
Okay so right now im taking choy li fut and im mostly just learning how to deal with certain situations but i want to learn like basic things that you can use in a fight like a variety of kicks or strikes.
I really want to try another style (while still doing choy li fut) one that i will be able to use in a fight faster because choy li fut seems like one where it takes like years for it to be really effective in a fight. so what are some suggestions
What other type of martial arts should i take other than choy li fut???
Start from the beginning with your motive for taking a Martial Art or Yoga for that matter. Western interpretations of both disciplines tend to focus on the more immediate features (Martial Arts--kick someones butt, no longer be bullied). Yoga tends to be less of a philosophy in the USA and more of an exercise club.
I would try to look at a martial art that treats itself as a discipline---a community feel to the school, a Sifu (if Chinese) that has a few decades in the martial art, a range of students mixed together as learners and some emphasis on eating and healing. I%26#039;d look to see if there%26#039;s some form of Tai Chi or Mei Lei Jeung associated with the training. I%26#039;d also look at the beliefs surrounding circular versus angular forms.
Do people get hurt while training at the school? Does the school partake in traditions (drumming, ceremonial weapons, Lion Dance). I tried Wing Chung years back and it was evil (not the form but the school) all about beating up folks, then I found a school we cooked meals, exercised outdoors, meditated for 1-2 hours over the course of a 3-6 hour class and had ages from 3 to 60. This was a White Crane School but I think the form , although beautiful and effective was surpassed by the master%26#039;s training to teach us dignity, self worth, health care and the correct use of power.
Reply:Aikido
just go to youtube, wikipedia, or google it
Reply:Tang Soo Do.
Reply:Try Krav maga for fast self defense results, if you don%26#039;t want to go to another school, the nbuy a video of it for reference...Also try Kung Fu San Soo
Reply:Choy li fut is a great style, but it does take some time to become good at, especially if they are not teaching you combat applications. (sounds like they are just teaching the basic forms) Here are some good styles.
Kajukenbo
Won hop kuen do
Tum pai
CHA 3 kenpo
Kyokushin karate
Danzan ryu jujitsu
Jeet kune do
Muay thai
Eskrima / Kali / Arnis
Judo
Combat hapkido
Reply:if you want to learn in a fast pae learn krav maga. Its as realistic as you will get. Theres no fancy forms to learn, its just based on this, your in a fight, kill your opponent krav maga is taught to FBI agents CIA, police etc. learn this. Its faster and more effective to learn.
Reply:Any art that is strong in what choy li fut is weakest in .All arts have their weaknesses tho their adherents would have you beleive otherwise..
I really want to try another style (while still doing choy li fut) one that i will be able to use in a fight faster because choy li fut seems like one where it takes like years for it to be really effective in a fight. so what are some suggestions
What other type of martial arts should i take other than choy li fut???
Start from the beginning with your motive for taking a Martial Art or Yoga for that matter. Western interpretations of both disciplines tend to focus on the more immediate features (Martial Arts--kick someones butt, no longer be bullied). Yoga tends to be less of a philosophy in the USA and more of an exercise club.
I would try to look at a martial art that treats itself as a discipline---a community feel to the school, a Sifu (if Chinese) that has a few decades in the martial art, a range of students mixed together as learners and some emphasis on eating and healing. I%26#039;d look to see if there%26#039;s some form of Tai Chi or Mei Lei Jeung associated with the training. I%26#039;d also look at the beliefs surrounding circular versus angular forms.
Do people get hurt while training at the school? Does the school partake in traditions (drumming, ceremonial weapons, Lion Dance). I tried Wing Chung years back and it was evil (not the form but the school) all about beating up folks, then I found a school we cooked meals, exercised outdoors, meditated for 1-2 hours over the course of a 3-6 hour class and had ages from 3 to 60. This was a White Crane School but I think the form , although beautiful and effective was surpassed by the master%26#039;s training to teach us dignity, self worth, health care and the correct use of power.
Reply:Aikido
just go to youtube, wikipedia, or google it
Reply:Tang Soo Do.
Reply:Try Krav maga for fast self defense results, if you don%26#039;t want to go to another school, the nbuy a video of it for reference...Also try Kung Fu San Soo
Reply:Choy li fut is a great style, but it does take some time to become good at, especially if they are not teaching you combat applications. (sounds like they are just teaching the basic forms) Here are some good styles.
Kajukenbo
Won hop kuen do
Tum pai
CHA 3 kenpo
Kyokushin karate
Danzan ryu jujitsu
Jeet kune do
Muay thai
Eskrima / Kali / Arnis
Judo
Combat hapkido
Reply:if you want to learn in a fast pae learn krav maga. Its as realistic as you will get. Theres no fancy forms to learn, its just based on this, your in a fight, kill your opponent krav maga is taught to FBI agents CIA, police etc. learn this. Its faster and more effective to learn.
Reply:Any art that is strong in what choy li fut is weakest in .All arts have their weaknesses tho their adherents would have you beleive otherwise..
Do you think regarding all martial arts as completely equal is politically correct nonsense?
Just hear me out please
First, I don%26#039;t think there is any magical super style that dominates all. But aren%26#039;t there far less valuable versions of just about everything that isn%26#039;t hard science?
There are more efficient ways than others of executing kicks and punches that are more economical, put more force behind it, and leave you less open. You can show for example, that a boxer%26#039;s punch implements a lot of body mechanics and you are able to generate great amounts of force.
Like all athletic events, there are simply better ideas than other. Throwing a football %26quot;like a girl%26quot; is obviously not as good as using one that implements sport physics. There are several good ways to shoot a basketball accurately in a competitive game but none of them include the %26quot;between the legs toss up%26quot;.
Will people really claim the Crane Style is just as effective as something taught to the military like Krav Maga?
Do you think regarding all martial arts as completely equal is politically correct nonsense?
Firstly: Using Krav Maga vs Crane Style is flawed. One is an art, and one is a combat system. There%26#039;s a big difference between the two, and Krav Maga isn%26#039;t hard: It gets the job done. It%26#039;s more dirty, than hard.
Speaking of the military- Research the quote %26quot;San Shou is the quintessence of Wushu,%26quot; and research how many different styles are a part of the MCMAP. That just furthers my point.
As for the rest: No. It%26#039;s true. All things are equal, because the only means by which they are different is how they%26#039;re getting from point A to point B.
You have to understand that a lot of arts do emphasize similar elements within the fighting ranges that they cover. Boxing, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, and even kung fu in some cases ALL use kinetic linking for punches. They may not speak so much anatomically as in the case of boxing (But they do have much more to teach than four punches, and about 40 variations at most, with a few dodges, slips, and so on), but they will say %26quot;It comes from the ground. Turn your body into your punch. The power comes from your leg muscles.%26quot;
Fight science wasn%26#039;t as credible as it could be, but I%26#039;m just going to say this:
The Wushu guy was the quickest, the TKD had the fastest reaction time, the boxer punched the hardest, the bujinkan guy had the best balance, and the Muay Thai guy kneed (Which isn%26#039;t a kick, but eh..) the hardest. Which is most important? How about a little bit of all of those, hmm? Besides the ability to elude being the best thing: All of those are helpful things in fights.
Secondly: You realize there%26#039;s 6 billion people on earth, right? Why would you expect x type of move or style to be the only one around, when you and I are in completely different situations? I%26#039;ve taken almost 10 different styles (And I%26#039;m about to start MMA), I%26#039;m ectomorphic, I%26#039;m 5%26#039; 10%26quot; 1/2. What are you?
Speaking of which:
Do you honestly think we%26#039;re suppose to do the same movements, EXACTLY? There%26#039;s no way that me kicking like x is always going to be stronger, than you or your friend kicking like y. It%26#039;s NOT that simple in any stretch of the word. Not to mention how we%26#039;re built different (Size, muscle, et cetera...), what we%26#039;re kicking for, and so on.
What many of the people that do say %26quot;They%26#039;re all equal%26quot; are saying is that training method (Emphasis on that), and training frequency are determinants of how well a style works. It isn%26#039;t political correctness: Training to defend yourself is different from training to be an MMA fighter.
You might have similar tools, but you don%26#039;t need to be the fittest person ever to defend yourself in the street (It helps, but it%26#039;s not a requirement). You%26#039;re not winning a belt: You%26#039;re fighting to survive. This doesn%26#039;t imply that MMA doesn%26#039;t work for street-situations, but it does imply that either case of someone doing xyz number of styles that cover all the fighting ranges that has intense sparring methods vs. MMA fighting can both equate to self-defense and street fighting ability.
There%26#039;s many training methods that are easily changed to add and subtract things for more completeness and intensity within arts. An art as soft as Tai Chi can be made readily available for self-defense with sparring added.
Because of the popularity increase of BJJ and groundfighting in general: A lot of schools are teaching groundfighting, or at least how to avoid it.
That can vary though: Whether you%26#039;re doing hapmundo, or the basic JJJ, advanced BJJ, and so on. They all work, because once again: There%26#039;s only subtle differences that occur.
If you ask an JJJ instructor, a Hapkido instructor, and a BJJ instructor: ALL three of them are likely to be able to teach you how to execute an armbar. If you ask a JJJ instructor, a Hapkido Instructor, and a Judo instructor? They%26#039;re ALL likely to be able to teach you how to do a shoulder throw. It%26#039;s going to vary how it%26#039;s done, and no one way of doing it is better than them all intrinsically. The judo instructor might have the best execution, but there%26#039;s someone in those other arts that could at least match him in the same ability to do so.
Essentially what Lee and many others are stating is that you have to %26quot;Technically%26quot; make your own art from pieces and parts taken from many style to get well-rounded. That%26#039;s conceptual Jeet Kune Do (But there%26#039;s many styles of it: Jun Fan Kung Fu is sort of an emulation of what Lee did, JKD might be that or something between JKD concepts and JFKF, et cetera...), and pretty much a precursor of modern MMA if you will.
Unless you%26#039;ve already heard this-
%26quot;A punch is a punch. A kick is a kick.%26quot;
This is why we say it, and that%26#039;s why we said %26quot;Go to a good school, that specialized in the kind of training you want.%26quot; Training methods are not intrinsically related to styles. Some of the techniques are, but I can train as hard as a competitive fighter if I wanted to with either of those styles you listed. Crane style doesn%26#039;t have groundfighting though
Some styles emphasize defense over offense, or the opposite. Of course, that%26#039;s what those styles are for: Self-defense. Not doing MMA matches, not doing k-1.
Again:
There%26#039;s a huge difference between self-defense, martial arts, and combat systems. Martial arts can have concepts of all of them, but if you want self-defense at its core: Take self defense classes. If you want a combat system: Take a combat system.
Think of fighting someone with a more defensive style. It would be like being in battle with a big shield, and a dagger.
A more offensive style: Smaller shield, and a broad sword (Let%26#039;s be fun and say it%26#039;s a Chinese Dao lol :p). Who wins the fight? The person with more skill.
As for the little note about Lee: He did like boxing, but WHAT did he do when he decided to add it to his repertoire? MIX it with the rest of stuff that he knows, which included Wing Chug elements as well as Northern Shaolin kicking, then savate, then Korean kicking, and then he added grappling. He didn%26#039;t throw Wing Chun out completely until he decided to dismantle the whole concept of JKD being a style: He subtracted some parts, and added other elements from boxing. And yes one of the reasons he was so well-known was because of how hard he TRAINED. (Emphasis on that word too)
Oh, and hey first replier: The people at bullshido live by this- Training Method %26gt; Skill %26gt; Style. It%26#039;s no joke: I go to bullshido too. Tai Chi Chuan is actually good style, but Tai Chi without the %26quot;Fist%26quot; at the end doesn%26#039;t teach combat until later levels. Why does that make it less? Training methods? Oh I don%26#039;t know...
Reply:Firstly- The horse stance is for training only. You adopt a stance like boxing when you fight in most TKD/Karate Schools. Report It
Reply:Secondly- Tae Kwon Do is traditonally hard. If you look at its roots: It%26#039;s not what it used to be. Where do we have to go again: Training method. ^____^ (And of course sport TKD is not as ideal as traditional for self defense: It%26#039;s simple logic :P) Report It
Reply:Nice work Jon. Report It
Reply:I agree with you. But whenever you state that thought on here, a load of politically correct eejuts leap down your throat about it, with such time worn phrases as %26quot;Its the martial artist, not the art%26quot;.
Okay, so why arent there any world champion Tai Chi fighters?
http://www.bullshido.com - go for sanity.
Reply:i don%26#039;t really know but i practice muay thai and in my opinion it is the best form of martial art. true there are better ways of punching and kicking than others but the best style is really the 1 that the person using it finds best. all martial arts are effective if you train hard and focus on what u r doing.
but i think ive totally misinterpruted the question lol so never mind
Reply:Well there is not much science done for martial arts at the moment so a lot of things can be argued until the cows come home, usually it isn%26#039;t just about the most efficient punch, you can%26#039;t just get the BEST kick the BEST punch the BEST stance the BEST block and put them together, they might not mix together so its all about how a style mixes those things up and produces results
People will always claim their style is the best until they humble themselves and go out to learn the other martial arts, I think its great that there is MMA because regardles of the sneaky techniques a fighter should still be able to stand up, at least in a MMA match, fair enough if you don%26#039;t know any submission fighting no matter what stylle you do the result will look the same but there is stand up MMA as well and its just ridiculous that a style can consistently be loosing against another style and still claim its better even when the rules are in their favour as in TKD going into a Kyokushin tournament where punches are not allowed, if 10 TKD fighters went into a kyokushin tournament and 2 won 4 did alright, fair enough as long as they stood up to it, but if 10 fighters go in and every single one of them gets dominated you know there is somethign wrong with the art, either that or the art attracts people who are really weak which is BS because every martial art attracts weak people and its the arts job to turn those people into strong fighters not keep them weak
Reply:Crane style Kung fu was a good style developed for defence weapons, the sweeping hands and legs allowed the practitioner the ability to move fluidly around the attacks common at the time.
martial arts that stagnate become less usefull against things that were not common at the time of its devlopment. while they still have core values that are in common of the evolved forms of that style (rooting, centering, remaining calm and footwork among them)
Krav Maga is a good art form if someone is trying to kill you and you need to kill or mame them first. whereas judo is great if you just need to stop somebody from doing something dumb. (grandpa is off his meds and going crazy) you wouldn%26#039;t want to punch granddad in the face then stomp his head now would you?
if all you learn is the best way to pound somebody you better hope everyone needs pounded. or as the saying goes if all you have is a hammer every thing better be a nail.
Reply:So the %26quot;between-the-legs-toss-up%26quot; method of basketball isn%26#039;t accurate... Well, tell it to the fella who accurately tossed a few baskets that way -- in a competitive game. Of course, the same method is useless in a soccer game............... Yeah, I know, in soccer you have to use the feet -- but hand-to-hand is useless in a gunfight, and a flying kick is a poor defense against a sword.
In Martial Arts, it is about skill, not just %26quot;power%26quot;; that%26#039;s why %26quot;rank%26quot; is counted according to the color of the belt and/or %26quot;degree%26quot;. See, a person highly skilled in Judo can win against a person with so-so skill in %26quot;Krav Maga%26quot;; the %26quot;strong%26quot; person wastes all his %26quot;power%26quot; on trying to hit hard, while the %26quot;weak%26quot; person uses his skill to avoid being hit -- and thereby becomes the victor. Where the two are evenly matched in both skill and/or strength, the one who wins is the one who makes the least amount of mistakes -- or the one to successfully utilize an opening, which quite often amounts to the same thing.
It really IS the person doing the Martial Art -- and not the style. Learn the Art, gain Skill, and whichever style you learn will be just as good as any other style.
Oh, and the remark about a boxing punch being better because it uses the whole body... Bruce Lee was able to punch so hard he could a man out -- moving only his arm, and not his body. Mr. Lee combined great SKILL with disciplined STRENGTH.
And Tai Ch%26#039;i is NOT about fighting, although the moves can be used in a fight -- it is about CONTROL and DISCIPLINE. Just as modern Kyudo is not about the Military use of Archery. Talk about eedjits.......
Reply:Well, if you mean in a sense that they all teach you self control and to kick toochy when you need to YES, but they all have different phylosophies in a way and different moves! I don%26#039;t know, I think they are similar but not completely equal.
Reply:JUDO could not beat Krav Maga in any shape or form you idiot not u mr cow just the guy answering ya question
Reply:I see you point but I disagree... I think really it is training methods and experience in the end.
When you are talking about something like Krav too remember that this is designed to teach people quickly and something like Crane is designed to be learned over many years, so sure in the short term Krav would kick die to it%26#039;s training ect, however Crane would be just as effective once the fighter has reach maturity.
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Reply:I think it depends on your objectives.
Some martial arts on heath, some are philosophical/religous, others culture, other more on sport, others self-defense or war/law enforcement.
Health-Tai Chi
Philosophical - Aikido
Culture - Kung Fu, Capoeira,
Sport - Tae Kwon Do, Karate,kickboxing
Self-defense - Jujitsu,
Law Enforcement - Kali, Krav Maga
Of course there is alots of overlaps.
Reply:I agree that certain styles are easier to use effectively, that doesn%26#039;t make other styles less effective though. Now this is of course speaking of real martial arts styles, not just some McDojo crap or scam claiming to teach government ninja seals. Let us say two fighters from different styles face off. One is known for practicing a fluid, circular %26quot;soft%26quot; style of martial arts. The second fighter is known for his straight forward, aggressive,%26quot;hard%26quot; style. Either could win, it just would be less in the way of convention for the guy using the more straight forward style.
Reply:This is a direct response to atheism...maybe there are no world champion Tai Chi fighters because Tai Chi is not meant to be in a ring with rules, and that just maybe by the time somebody gets good enough in the style they have surpassed the need to stroke their ego by fighting.
All Martial Arts if taught correctly and not McDojo style have value, even if it is not for the same thing. Are you going to tell the guy who used Tai Chi practice to help him win a battle with cancer that it is useless? Are you going to tell the parent that has a child with ADD and doesn%26#039;t want to pump them full of drugs that the karate classes that have calmed him down and enabled him to focus are useless? Are you going to tell the abused women that the Kung Fu classes that she is taking that have returned her self worth and given her self respect back are not as valuble as any other?
Think about it, not everyone trains Martial Arts to fight. if you do you lose a lot.
Reply:1st off krav maga will not defeat any good judo bjj or mma fighter .It is a limited self defense course designed for lazy people who want a quick fix .
Krav is taught as %26quot;here is the attack here is the response%26quot;
That is short sighted they dont teach %26quot;here is what you do if your response fails or is countered%26quot;which the other arts do.
All arts are great when they work but you need to know what to do if they dont.That requires years of training.
Irregardless of your style you must explore reseach and develope .If you find a more powerful way to punch to kick to grapple do it .
If you have self respect and a good attitude towards society you will probably never have to use it anyway.
Reply:In my martial arts career this question had already been resolved back in 1968.
It is a fact that not all martial arts are the same and some martial arts are not complete systems. A lot of martial arts were designed for a limited confrontation while other martial arts teach a complete curriculum of skills.
Military styles such as: Ketsugo, JUKADO, Krav Magna, Sambo, Marine Corp Martial Arts Program, etc. etc. are designed to be taught and learned in a very short period of time (just as the Samurai taught their peasant draftees fundamental forms of Ju-Jutsu). And these %26#039;military styles%26#039; of martial arts tend to be rude and crude and not always effective.
It is also an accepted fact that it depends on the skill of an individual practitioner to make any style effective.
Then there are the complete systems of martial arts such as Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, Karate, or Kung fu (and all their styles) which take decades of hard practice to learn. These martial arts teach weapons usage as well as weapons defense and defense against multiple attackers under every and all conditions. Again this requires a life-time of study beginning at ages 4, 5, or 6 and becoming very good by ages 19 thru 25 (your prime fighting years).
So the answer is NO, not all martial arts are EQUAL, yet each one is excellent for what it was designed to do.
Reply:The problem is that there is no consistency in the arts. Jakes%26#039;s Krav Maga in New Jersey may not be the same as Saul%26#039;s Krav Maga in Jerusalem. So, to say that this style is superior would be flawed. This is just an example.
I have come to the conclusion that the quality and frequency of one%26#039;s training will far outweigh the style you train in.
For example, let%26#039;s say Bob studies %26quot;deathand%26quot;, he goes to a school once a week and pussyfoots around for an hour and a half and then goes home and doesn%26#039;t practice on his own. But Sam studies %26quot;Sport kicking%26quot;, he trains hard every night, he does medium contact and he works out to be a better fighter.
%26quot;Deathhand%26quot; is a superior style to %26quot;Sport kicking%26quot;, who do you think would fare better in a self-defense situation?
I would bet the guy that trains harder will do better.
Therefore, we must all decide for ourselves what is %26quot;superior%26quot; based on our own observations and logical deductions.
First, I don%26#039;t think there is any magical super style that dominates all. But aren%26#039;t there far less valuable versions of just about everything that isn%26#039;t hard science?
There are more efficient ways than others of executing kicks and punches that are more economical, put more force behind it, and leave you less open. You can show for example, that a boxer%26#039;s punch implements a lot of body mechanics and you are able to generate great amounts of force.
Like all athletic events, there are simply better ideas than other. Throwing a football %26quot;like a girl%26quot; is obviously not as good as using one that implements sport physics. There are several good ways to shoot a basketball accurately in a competitive game but none of them include the %26quot;between the legs toss up%26quot;.
Will people really claim the Crane Style is just as effective as something taught to the military like Krav Maga?
Do you think regarding all martial arts as completely equal is politically correct nonsense?
Firstly: Using Krav Maga vs Crane Style is flawed. One is an art, and one is a combat system. There%26#039;s a big difference between the two, and Krav Maga isn%26#039;t hard: It gets the job done. It%26#039;s more dirty, than hard.
Speaking of the military- Research the quote %26quot;San Shou is the quintessence of Wushu,%26quot; and research how many different styles are a part of the MCMAP. That just furthers my point.
As for the rest: No. It%26#039;s true. All things are equal, because the only means by which they are different is how they%26#039;re getting from point A to point B.
You have to understand that a lot of arts do emphasize similar elements within the fighting ranges that they cover. Boxing, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, and even kung fu in some cases ALL use kinetic linking for punches. They may not speak so much anatomically as in the case of boxing (But they do have much more to teach than four punches, and about 40 variations at most, with a few dodges, slips, and so on), but they will say %26quot;It comes from the ground. Turn your body into your punch. The power comes from your leg muscles.%26quot;
Fight science wasn%26#039;t as credible as it could be, but I%26#039;m just going to say this:
The Wushu guy was the quickest, the TKD had the fastest reaction time, the boxer punched the hardest, the bujinkan guy had the best balance, and the Muay Thai guy kneed (Which isn%26#039;t a kick, but eh..) the hardest. Which is most important? How about a little bit of all of those, hmm? Besides the ability to elude being the best thing: All of those are helpful things in fights.
Secondly: You realize there%26#039;s 6 billion people on earth, right? Why would you expect x type of move or style to be the only one around, when you and I are in completely different situations? I%26#039;ve taken almost 10 different styles (And I%26#039;m about to start MMA), I%26#039;m ectomorphic, I%26#039;m 5%26#039; 10%26quot; 1/2. What are you?
Speaking of which:
Do you honestly think we%26#039;re suppose to do the same movements, EXACTLY? There%26#039;s no way that me kicking like x is always going to be stronger, than you or your friend kicking like y. It%26#039;s NOT that simple in any stretch of the word. Not to mention how we%26#039;re built different (Size, muscle, et cetera...), what we%26#039;re kicking for, and so on.
What many of the people that do say %26quot;They%26#039;re all equal%26quot; are saying is that training method (Emphasis on that), and training frequency are determinants of how well a style works. It isn%26#039;t political correctness: Training to defend yourself is different from training to be an MMA fighter.
You might have similar tools, but you don%26#039;t need to be the fittest person ever to defend yourself in the street (It helps, but it%26#039;s not a requirement). You%26#039;re not winning a belt: You%26#039;re fighting to survive. This doesn%26#039;t imply that MMA doesn%26#039;t work for street-situations, but it does imply that either case of someone doing xyz number of styles that cover all the fighting ranges that has intense sparring methods vs. MMA fighting can both equate to self-defense and street fighting ability.
There%26#039;s many training methods that are easily changed to add and subtract things for more completeness and intensity within arts. An art as soft as Tai Chi can be made readily available for self-defense with sparring added.
Because of the popularity increase of BJJ and groundfighting in general: A lot of schools are teaching groundfighting, or at least how to avoid it.
That can vary though: Whether you%26#039;re doing hapmundo, or the basic JJJ, advanced BJJ, and so on. They all work, because once again: There%26#039;s only subtle differences that occur.
If you ask an JJJ instructor, a Hapkido instructor, and a BJJ instructor: ALL three of them are likely to be able to teach you how to execute an armbar. If you ask a JJJ instructor, a Hapkido Instructor, and a Judo instructor? They%26#039;re ALL likely to be able to teach you how to do a shoulder throw. It%26#039;s going to vary how it%26#039;s done, and no one way of doing it is better than them all intrinsically. The judo instructor might have the best execution, but there%26#039;s someone in those other arts that could at least match him in the same ability to do so.
Essentially what Lee and many others are stating is that you have to %26quot;Technically%26quot; make your own art from pieces and parts taken from many style to get well-rounded. That%26#039;s conceptual Jeet Kune Do (But there%26#039;s many styles of it: Jun Fan Kung Fu is sort of an emulation of what Lee did, JKD might be that or something between JKD concepts and JFKF, et cetera...), and pretty much a precursor of modern MMA if you will.
Unless you%26#039;ve already heard this-
%26quot;A punch is a punch. A kick is a kick.%26quot;
This is why we say it, and that%26#039;s why we said %26quot;Go to a good school, that specialized in the kind of training you want.%26quot; Training methods are not intrinsically related to styles. Some of the techniques are, but I can train as hard as a competitive fighter if I wanted to with either of those styles you listed. Crane style doesn%26#039;t have groundfighting though
Some styles emphasize defense over offense, or the opposite. Of course, that%26#039;s what those styles are for: Self-defense. Not doing MMA matches, not doing k-1.
Again:
There%26#039;s a huge difference between self-defense, martial arts, and combat systems. Martial arts can have concepts of all of them, but if you want self-defense at its core: Take self defense classes. If you want a combat system: Take a combat system.
Think of fighting someone with a more defensive style. It would be like being in battle with a big shield, and a dagger.
A more offensive style: Smaller shield, and a broad sword (Let%26#039;s be fun and say it%26#039;s a Chinese Dao lol :p). Who wins the fight? The person with more skill.
As for the little note about Lee: He did like boxing, but WHAT did he do when he decided to add it to his repertoire? MIX it with the rest of stuff that he knows, which included Wing Chug elements as well as Northern Shaolin kicking, then savate, then Korean kicking, and then he added grappling. He didn%26#039;t throw Wing Chun out completely until he decided to dismantle the whole concept of JKD being a style: He subtracted some parts, and added other elements from boxing. And yes one of the reasons he was so well-known was because of how hard he TRAINED. (Emphasis on that word too)
Oh, and hey first replier: The people at bullshido live by this- Training Method %26gt; Skill %26gt; Style. It%26#039;s no joke: I go to bullshido too. Tai Chi Chuan is actually good style, but Tai Chi without the %26quot;Fist%26quot; at the end doesn%26#039;t teach combat until later levels. Why does that make it less? Training methods? Oh I don%26#039;t know...
Reply:Firstly- The horse stance is for training only. You adopt a stance like boxing when you fight in most TKD/Karate Schools. Report It
Reply:Secondly- Tae Kwon Do is traditonally hard. If you look at its roots: It%26#039;s not what it used to be. Where do we have to go again: Training method. ^____^ (And of course sport TKD is not as ideal as traditional for self defense: It%26#039;s simple logic :P) Report It
Reply:Nice work Jon. Report It
Reply:I agree with you. But whenever you state that thought on here, a load of politically correct eejuts leap down your throat about it, with such time worn phrases as %26quot;Its the martial artist, not the art%26quot;.
Okay, so why arent there any world champion Tai Chi fighters?
http://www.bullshido.com - go for sanity.
Reply:i don%26#039;t really know but i practice muay thai and in my opinion it is the best form of martial art. true there are better ways of punching and kicking than others but the best style is really the 1 that the person using it finds best. all martial arts are effective if you train hard and focus on what u r doing.
but i think ive totally misinterpruted the question lol so never mind
Reply:Well there is not much science done for martial arts at the moment so a lot of things can be argued until the cows come home, usually it isn%26#039;t just about the most efficient punch, you can%26#039;t just get the BEST kick the BEST punch the BEST stance the BEST block and put them together, they might not mix together so its all about how a style mixes those things up and produces results
People will always claim their style is the best until they humble themselves and go out to learn the other martial arts, I think its great that there is MMA because regardles of the sneaky techniques a fighter should still be able to stand up, at least in a MMA match, fair enough if you don%26#039;t know any submission fighting no matter what stylle you do the result will look the same but there is stand up MMA as well and its just ridiculous that a style can consistently be loosing against another style and still claim its better even when the rules are in their favour as in TKD going into a Kyokushin tournament where punches are not allowed, if 10 TKD fighters went into a kyokushin tournament and 2 won 4 did alright, fair enough as long as they stood up to it, but if 10 fighters go in and every single one of them gets dominated you know there is somethign wrong with the art, either that or the art attracts people who are really weak which is BS because every martial art attracts weak people and its the arts job to turn those people into strong fighters not keep them weak
Reply:Crane style Kung fu was a good style developed for defence weapons, the sweeping hands and legs allowed the practitioner the ability to move fluidly around the attacks common at the time.
martial arts that stagnate become less usefull against things that were not common at the time of its devlopment. while they still have core values that are in common of the evolved forms of that style (rooting, centering, remaining calm and footwork among them)
Krav Maga is a good art form if someone is trying to kill you and you need to kill or mame them first. whereas judo is great if you just need to stop somebody from doing something dumb. (grandpa is off his meds and going crazy) you wouldn%26#039;t want to punch granddad in the face then stomp his head now would you?
if all you learn is the best way to pound somebody you better hope everyone needs pounded. or as the saying goes if all you have is a hammer every thing better be a nail.
Reply:So the %26quot;between-the-legs-toss-up%26quot; method of basketball isn%26#039;t accurate... Well, tell it to the fella who accurately tossed a few baskets that way -- in a competitive game. Of course, the same method is useless in a soccer game............... Yeah, I know, in soccer you have to use the feet -- but hand-to-hand is useless in a gunfight, and a flying kick is a poor defense against a sword.
In Martial Arts, it is about skill, not just %26quot;power%26quot;; that%26#039;s why %26quot;rank%26quot; is counted according to the color of the belt and/or %26quot;degree%26quot;. See, a person highly skilled in Judo can win against a person with so-so skill in %26quot;Krav Maga%26quot;; the %26quot;strong%26quot; person wastes all his %26quot;power%26quot; on trying to hit hard, while the %26quot;weak%26quot; person uses his skill to avoid being hit -- and thereby becomes the victor. Where the two are evenly matched in both skill and/or strength, the one who wins is the one who makes the least amount of mistakes -- or the one to successfully utilize an opening, which quite often amounts to the same thing.
It really IS the person doing the Martial Art -- and not the style. Learn the Art, gain Skill, and whichever style you learn will be just as good as any other style.
Oh, and the remark about a boxing punch being better because it uses the whole body... Bruce Lee was able to punch so hard he could a man out -- moving only his arm, and not his body. Mr. Lee combined great SKILL with disciplined STRENGTH.
And Tai Ch%26#039;i is NOT about fighting, although the moves can be used in a fight -- it is about CONTROL and DISCIPLINE. Just as modern Kyudo is not about the Military use of Archery. Talk about eedjits.......
Reply:Well, if you mean in a sense that they all teach you self control and to kick toochy when you need to YES, but they all have different phylosophies in a way and different moves! I don%26#039;t know, I think they are similar but not completely equal.
Reply:JUDO could not beat Krav Maga in any shape or form you idiot not u mr cow just the guy answering ya question
Reply:I see you point but I disagree... I think really it is training methods and experience in the end.
When you are talking about something like Krav too remember that this is designed to teach people quickly and something like Crane is designed to be learned over many years, so sure in the short term Krav would kick die to it%26#039;s training ect, however Crane would be just as effective once the fighter has reach maturity.
Blah.
Reply:I think it depends on your objectives.
Some martial arts on heath, some are philosophical/religous, others culture, other more on sport, others self-defense or war/law enforcement.
Health-Tai Chi
Philosophical - Aikido
Culture - Kung Fu, Capoeira,
Sport - Tae Kwon Do, Karate,kickboxing
Self-defense - Jujitsu,
Law Enforcement - Kali, Krav Maga
Of course there is alots of overlaps.
Reply:I agree that certain styles are easier to use effectively, that doesn%26#039;t make other styles less effective though. Now this is of course speaking of real martial arts styles, not just some McDojo crap or scam claiming to teach government ninja seals. Let us say two fighters from different styles face off. One is known for practicing a fluid, circular %26quot;soft%26quot; style of martial arts. The second fighter is known for his straight forward, aggressive,%26quot;hard%26quot; style. Either could win, it just would be less in the way of convention for the guy using the more straight forward style.
Reply:This is a direct response to atheism...maybe there are no world champion Tai Chi fighters because Tai Chi is not meant to be in a ring with rules, and that just maybe by the time somebody gets good enough in the style they have surpassed the need to stroke their ego by fighting.
All Martial Arts if taught correctly and not McDojo style have value, even if it is not for the same thing. Are you going to tell the guy who used Tai Chi practice to help him win a battle with cancer that it is useless? Are you going to tell the parent that has a child with ADD and doesn%26#039;t want to pump them full of drugs that the karate classes that have calmed him down and enabled him to focus are useless? Are you going to tell the abused women that the Kung Fu classes that she is taking that have returned her self worth and given her self respect back are not as valuble as any other?
Think about it, not everyone trains Martial Arts to fight. if you do you lose a lot.
Reply:1st off krav maga will not defeat any good judo bjj or mma fighter .It is a limited self defense course designed for lazy people who want a quick fix .
Krav is taught as %26quot;here is the attack here is the response%26quot;
That is short sighted they dont teach %26quot;here is what you do if your response fails or is countered%26quot;which the other arts do.
All arts are great when they work but you need to know what to do if they dont.That requires years of training.
Irregardless of your style you must explore reseach and develope .If you find a more powerful way to punch to kick to grapple do it .
If you have self respect and a good attitude towards society you will probably never have to use it anyway.
Reply:In my martial arts career this question had already been resolved back in 1968.
It is a fact that not all martial arts are the same and some martial arts are not complete systems. A lot of martial arts were designed for a limited confrontation while other martial arts teach a complete curriculum of skills.
Military styles such as: Ketsugo, JUKADO, Krav Magna, Sambo, Marine Corp Martial Arts Program, etc. etc. are designed to be taught and learned in a very short period of time (just as the Samurai taught their peasant draftees fundamental forms of Ju-Jutsu). And these %26#039;military styles%26#039; of martial arts tend to be rude and crude and not always effective.
It is also an accepted fact that it depends on the skill of an individual practitioner to make any style effective.
Then there are the complete systems of martial arts such as Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, Karate, or Kung fu (and all their styles) which take decades of hard practice to learn. These martial arts teach weapons usage as well as weapons defense and defense against multiple attackers under every and all conditions. Again this requires a life-time of study beginning at ages 4, 5, or 6 and becoming very good by ages 19 thru 25 (your prime fighting years).
So the answer is NO, not all martial arts are EQUAL, yet each one is excellent for what it was designed to do.
Reply:The problem is that there is no consistency in the arts. Jakes%26#039;s Krav Maga in New Jersey may not be the same as Saul%26#039;s Krav Maga in Jerusalem. So, to say that this style is superior would be flawed. This is just an example.
I have come to the conclusion that the quality and frequency of one%26#039;s training will far outweigh the style you train in.
For example, let%26#039;s say Bob studies %26quot;deathand%26quot;, he goes to a school once a week and pussyfoots around for an hour and a half and then goes home and doesn%26#039;t practice on his own. But Sam studies %26quot;Sport kicking%26quot;, he trains hard every night, he does medium contact and he works out to be a better fighter.
%26quot;Deathhand%26quot; is a superior style to %26quot;Sport kicking%26quot;, who do you think would fare better in a self-defense situation?
I would bet the guy that trains harder will do better.
Therefore, we must all decide for ourselves what is %26quot;superior%26quot; based on our own observations and logical deductions.
Is mixed martial arts?
the most popular style in professional fighting
Is mixed martial arts?
Absolutely, now they have a reality show, they are giving endorsements through million dollar contracts and fighters earn well over 6 figures at a very early age in the career. They are the most well conditioned athletes in most cases and no boxer can even touch them/. Martial arts is now a national phenomonon just look at cnn, espn, HBO, discovery channel, Sports Illustrated, Zuffa llc, UFC., A%26amp;E etc...MMA is the fastest growing sport and already surpassed boxing give it a little time and watch it flourish.
Reply:Yes, It is the fastest growing sport and has surpassed boxing.
Reply:ummm. excuse me, football IS professional fighting
Reply:Yes, it is.
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Is mixed martial arts?
Absolutely, now they have a reality show, they are giving endorsements through million dollar contracts and fighters earn well over 6 figures at a very early age in the career. They are the most well conditioned athletes in most cases and no boxer can even touch them/. Martial arts is now a national phenomonon just look at cnn, espn, HBO, discovery channel, Sports Illustrated, Zuffa llc, UFC., A%26amp;E etc...MMA is the fastest growing sport and already surpassed boxing give it a little time and watch it flourish.
Reply:Yes, It is the fastest growing sport and has surpassed boxing.
Reply:ummm. excuse me, football IS professional fighting
Reply:Yes, it is.
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What kind of Martial Arts is used by Jedi in the star wars movies?
What form of sword style and fighting hand to hand style do you think they are using?
What kind of Martial Arts is used by Jedi in the star wars movies?
With the Lightsabres it depends on which trilogy.
The first trilogy 4-6 the swordmanship quality is nothing compared to what they used in 1-3.
I would say a more hollywood/Medieval sword play mixed with some fencing was used in alot of the first trilogy.
now the second trilogy they did their homework and i would say the majority of the clashes are using a kenjitsu/Iado/Kendo mix and alot less fencing.
As far as physical combat i do not recall much in that way beyong their blades and the force so I would that Jedi is its own art..=]
Reply:The Force
Reply:they used a mix.
Reply:Samurai-inspired.
In the movies the don%26#039;t fight had-to-hand, but rather they use their lightsabers, some of the moves are similar to how the samurai would use their katanas.
Reply:One might as well call it %26#039;Hollywood Karate%26#039;. Even tho Speilberg %26amp; Co. probably use different martial arts experts for %26#039;light-saber%26#039; fight choreography and staged unarmed combat scenes, it all comes down to what moves look the fanciest on camera, and are all drawn from different styles.
Reply:Sky Whak Fu
Reply:I%26#039;ve heard that it is a highly mixed form of kendo, laido, and some traditional fencing techniques, even including medieval broadsword. I%26#039;m not sure of how accurate that is, however. (found it on Wikipedia)
I know from my own limited experience in swordplay that some of Vader%26#039;s attack/defense postures in ROTJ remind me strongly of some broadsword techniques.
What kind of Martial Arts is used by Jedi in the star wars movies?
With the Lightsabres it depends on which trilogy.
The first trilogy 4-6 the swordmanship quality is nothing compared to what they used in 1-3.
I would say a more hollywood/Medieval sword play mixed with some fencing was used in alot of the first trilogy.
now the second trilogy they did their homework and i would say the majority of the clashes are using a kenjitsu/Iado/Kendo mix and alot less fencing.
As far as physical combat i do not recall much in that way beyong their blades and the force so I would that Jedi is its own art..=]
Reply:The Force
Reply:they used a mix.
Reply:Samurai-inspired.
In the movies the don%26#039;t fight had-to-hand, but rather they use their lightsabers, some of the moves are similar to how the samurai would use their katanas.
Reply:One might as well call it %26#039;Hollywood Karate%26#039;. Even tho Speilberg %26amp; Co. probably use different martial arts experts for %26#039;light-saber%26#039; fight choreography and staged unarmed combat scenes, it all comes down to what moves look the fanciest on camera, and are all drawn from different styles.
Reply:Sky Whak Fu
Reply:I%26#039;ve heard that it is a highly mixed form of kendo, laido, and some traditional fencing techniques, even including medieval broadsword. I%26#039;m not sure of how accurate that is, however. (found it on Wikipedia)
I know from my own limited experience in swordplay that some of Vader%26#039;s attack/defense postures in ROTJ remind me strongly of some broadsword techniques.
In martial arts, where does Chun Par 1(a Kata in Tae Kwon Do) come from?
I know that it was introduced around 1986 or so by the head of United Karate. It is said that he saw it from another person and later implemented it into our curriculum. I was wondering where it originated. What style is it from? The history of the form? Because I can%26#039;t find it anywhere.
In martial arts, where does Chun Par 1(a Kata in Tae Kwon Do) come from?
Perhaps this is the information you are seeking:
Chung Do Kwan, founded in 1944, is the first of nine schools teaching what came to be known as Taekwondo.
Chung Do Kwan (Blue Waves School) was founded by Won Kuk Lee. Lee earned a black belt in Shotokan karate training under Gichin Funakoshi at Chuo University in Japan, then traveled Asia studying martial arts technique, history, and philosophy. He returned to Korea and opened the Chung Do Kwan in 1944 after being refused permission by the Japanese government twice. His original name for what he taught was %26quot;Tang Soo Do%26quot;, which is the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese characters pronounced Karate Do in the Japanese language.
The Korean word for %26quot;blue%26quot; is Chung. Therefore Chung Do Kwan translates as %26quot;Blue Waves School%26quot;.
Beginning in early times, Chung Do Kwan technique and philosophy centered around mastering basics, developing powerful technique, pinpoint accuracy in application, strong kicking, and deep appreciation for manners and etiquette. Its trademark techniques are the side kick, jumping side kick, and sliding side kick although it practices many other techniques as well-all in accordance with Chung Do Kwan principles. From the start, Won Kuk Lee wanted his students to be men of honor, only allowed upright individuals as his students, and encouraged them to live honorable lives as Chung Do Kwan students. All in an effort to restore the good reputation once held by Korean martial arts and distance itself from the notion of Taekwondo students as troublemakers.
Chung Do Kwan philosophy is that Taekwondo is a method of self-defense, self-improvement, and a Way of Life.
According to Hae Man Park, Vice-President of Chung Do Kwan (retired), today Chung Do Kwan is a social friendship club that endorses 100% the curriculum of the Kukkiwon system. Park states that Kukkiwon Taekwondo is Chung Do Kwan Taekwondo, and has been developed from the old systems of Chung Do Kwan and the other eight Kwans.
Chung Do Kwan Oath
We, as members, train our spirits and bodies according to the strict code.
We, as members, are united in mutual friendship.
We, as members, will comply with regulations and obey instructors.
Reply:A long time ago martial arts were outlawed. Kata means %26quot;the dance%26quot; it was a way for people to study martial arts without actual %26quot;practicing%26quot;
Reply:Are you sure it%26#039;s a TKD form? I%26#039;ve never heard of it %26amp; checked several sources (probably about 100 different forms) %26amp; can%26#039;t find it. In TKD, we don%26#039;t use the term %26quot;kata%26quot;. That%26#039;s a Japanese word. We call forms poomse or hyung.
Reply:I don%26#039;t know where it originated or what style it is from, but I%26#039;m in United and that is the form I am about to learn (just promoted). I will ask my instructor tonight.
In martial arts, where does Chun Par 1(a Kata in Tae Kwon Do) come from?
Perhaps this is the information you are seeking:
Chung Do Kwan, founded in 1944, is the first of nine schools teaching what came to be known as Taekwondo.
Chung Do Kwan (Blue Waves School) was founded by Won Kuk Lee. Lee earned a black belt in Shotokan karate training under Gichin Funakoshi at Chuo University in Japan, then traveled Asia studying martial arts technique, history, and philosophy. He returned to Korea and opened the Chung Do Kwan in 1944 after being refused permission by the Japanese government twice. His original name for what he taught was %26quot;Tang Soo Do%26quot;, which is the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese characters pronounced Karate Do in the Japanese language.
The Korean word for %26quot;blue%26quot; is Chung. Therefore Chung Do Kwan translates as %26quot;Blue Waves School%26quot;.
Beginning in early times, Chung Do Kwan technique and philosophy centered around mastering basics, developing powerful technique, pinpoint accuracy in application, strong kicking, and deep appreciation for manners and etiquette. Its trademark techniques are the side kick, jumping side kick, and sliding side kick although it practices many other techniques as well-all in accordance with Chung Do Kwan principles. From the start, Won Kuk Lee wanted his students to be men of honor, only allowed upright individuals as his students, and encouraged them to live honorable lives as Chung Do Kwan students. All in an effort to restore the good reputation once held by Korean martial arts and distance itself from the notion of Taekwondo students as troublemakers.
Chung Do Kwan philosophy is that Taekwondo is a method of self-defense, self-improvement, and a Way of Life.
According to Hae Man Park, Vice-President of Chung Do Kwan (retired), today Chung Do Kwan is a social friendship club that endorses 100% the curriculum of the Kukkiwon system. Park states that Kukkiwon Taekwondo is Chung Do Kwan Taekwondo, and has been developed from the old systems of Chung Do Kwan and the other eight Kwans.
Chung Do Kwan Oath
We, as members, train our spirits and bodies according to the strict code.
We, as members, are united in mutual friendship.
We, as members, will comply with regulations and obey instructors.
Reply:A long time ago martial arts were outlawed. Kata means %26quot;the dance%26quot; it was a way for people to study martial arts without actual %26quot;practicing%26quot;
Reply:Are you sure it%26#039;s a TKD form? I%26#039;ve never heard of it %26amp; checked several sources (probably about 100 different forms) %26amp; can%26#039;t find it. In TKD, we don%26#039;t use the term %26quot;kata%26quot;. That%26#039;s a Japanese word. We call forms poomse or hyung.
Reply:I don%26#039;t know where it originated or what style it is from, but I%26#039;m in United and that is the form I am about to learn (just promoted). I will ask my instructor tonight.
Which martial arts form should I study?
I want to learn a style that does not use outside objects other than the person%26#039;s own body and I want to do so more for self discipline than self defense.
Which martial arts form should I study?
Honestly, its very location specific. Tour the places you would be training, Find out how competent they are and go from there. Be sure to let them know exactly what styles you are looking for and if thats what they teach.
Good Luck!
Reply:My default to any Martial Arts question of this nature: The International TaeKwonDo Alliance (ITA). It is, IMHO, the very best. Try these websites: %26lt;www.itaonline.com%26gt; and %26lt;www.itatiger.com%26gt;. Hopefully they will have an Academy near where you live. :)
Reply:Ninjitsu all the way
Reply:any good traditional martial art with a good teacher will help you with self discipline. i suggest anything like taekwondo, karate, kung fu, and aikido. try finding a good teacher.
Reply:for self discipline, I would recomend kempo...Not only does it teach you self defence, they also have %26quot;inner%26quot; work, like controlling your emotions as in discipline, breathing work, posture and, it has kinda like a family feel to it, I think if you do kempo, you would fit well in any other kempo schools as its like a big family.
Reply:I study Hapkido and I like a lot. It uses your opponents own body and momentum against them.
It is relatively new to the U.S. though so I%26#039;m not sure if it is in your area.
Lots of dojos have a free trial of some kind so that you can try it out and see if that style and/or instructor is what you are looking for...
Hope this helps.
Reply:Check out BJJ for training and self discipline. Also many stand up styles like Muy Thai and Judo as good as well.
Decide if you want to do a sport or simply train to defend yourself. There are a multitude of stand up styles that add lots of devestating leverages, throws, chokes and joint breaks as well.
Find and art that makes you say, WOW! When you see it practiced and then take a free trial class. Get to know the instructor and students and see if you have an emotional fit with the group.
Once you start don%26#039;t quit early. The vast majority of martial arts students never go above their first or second belt rank. Stay the course, set a goal and work hard to obtain it. Martial arts are demanding but very rewarding in many many ways, but you will never realize their full potential unless you stay the course.
Good luck and enjoy each workout. Most of all have fun.
KK
Reply:Most people will just reccomend that you study whatever style it is that they do because that is where their own expertise lays.
your best bet is just to look around at all the schools in your area and find a style and a teacher that you like.
I was going to do this, however I ended up staying at the first school that I went to. Since starting I have gone to a few different places and tried training with other people and always just keep doing what I%26#039;m doing.
Any martial art will teach the aspects that you are looking for and most will only teach you weaons once you get to an advanced level anyway and by that stage you may want to learn them anyway as their is no better way to keep your self focused than swinging around something dangerous lol...
Anyway, good luck and enjoy the journey of your training, I hope it takes you where you want to go.
Reply:i know it%26#039;s thought as some to be just a growing fad but MMA is the way to go. the training that MM Artists do is very tough and takes a lot of discipline. if you read about any UFC fighter and see the stuff that they go through to condition themselves, you%26#039;ll see that it%26#039;s no picnic. you gain a knowledge of various forms of martial arts and train your body.
Reply:Actually, it would be good to learn how to use different objects for self-defense. You will still learn both self discipline and self defense, if you use %26quot;outside objects.%26quot; A lot of the Kung Fu weapons take a lot of self discipline to learn how to use. Some with weapons in Japanese arts, and even Korean arts.
Reply:Whatever art you choose, commit 100% to that style! Practice physically, breakdown and study mentally, challenge yourself to be the best you possibly can be. Self discipline is achieved through commitment. Working out when your either mentally or physically exhausted, setting goals and working to achieve them, not quitting!, this is self discipline. I%26#039;m a practitioner of the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) and as a Filipino of course I believe the FMA to be a true warriors art. We train empty hands in striking(kuntao), kicking(sikaran) and grappling(dumog) as well as with single and double weapons, stick(baston), knife(daga) and sword(espada). So pick an art and stick with it!, this will develop self discipline.
Reply:Look at all the different schools around you. Even if some are of the same styles. Same style, different instructors and different teaching methods and environment . Find a style that appeals to you.
Personally, I started off with Muay Thai (on and off due to $$). Now I find myself interested in Aikido. My friend started off in San Soo after looking at that style and Wing Chun.
Reply:Akido would fit as a good choice, because it requires absolutely perfect timing in order to be effective. the goal is to blend your energy in harmony with youre opponent adding just a little energy to his motion in order to throw or trip him, then following with a restraint hold. also achieving a black belt is a matter of 10 to 20 years of dedicated study, The translation of Akido is The way of harmony or the way of spiritual harmony.
While akido does not use weapons they do train for defence against them. also Akido is not a sport, it is not about competition, It is a purely defensive art and it takes more training to be effective for self defence, once mastered however it is very effective. Good luck in your journey, if you want to read a good book that is based on Akido Philosophy try Way of the peacefull warrior. good luck, personally I prefer Kenpo karate for strikes, Brazilian ju jitsu for submisions and Kali escrima for weapons. There is no best art but there is a best art for you!!!
Reply:hey i study tae kwon do n i would say it has wat u are after its a fluent combination of body n spirit, in all honesty tho it will depend on the school/ dojo some are more virtuous than others shotokan karate, wing chun and muay thai are also excellent if u cant find a local tkd school. hope it helps
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Which martial arts form should I study?
Honestly, its very location specific. Tour the places you would be training, Find out how competent they are and go from there. Be sure to let them know exactly what styles you are looking for and if thats what they teach.
Good Luck!
Reply:My default to any Martial Arts question of this nature: The International TaeKwonDo Alliance (ITA). It is, IMHO, the very best. Try these websites: %26lt;www.itaonline.com%26gt; and %26lt;www.itatiger.com%26gt;. Hopefully they will have an Academy near where you live. :)
Reply:Ninjitsu all the way
Reply:any good traditional martial art with a good teacher will help you with self discipline. i suggest anything like taekwondo, karate, kung fu, and aikido. try finding a good teacher.
Reply:for self discipline, I would recomend kempo...Not only does it teach you self defence, they also have %26quot;inner%26quot; work, like controlling your emotions as in discipline, breathing work, posture and, it has kinda like a family feel to it, I think if you do kempo, you would fit well in any other kempo schools as its like a big family.
Reply:I study Hapkido and I like a lot. It uses your opponents own body and momentum against them.
It is relatively new to the U.S. though so I%26#039;m not sure if it is in your area.
Lots of dojos have a free trial of some kind so that you can try it out and see if that style and/or instructor is what you are looking for...
Hope this helps.
Reply:Check out BJJ for training and self discipline. Also many stand up styles like Muy Thai and Judo as good as well.
Decide if you want to do a sport or simply train to defend yourself. There are a multitude of stand up styles that add lots of devestating leverages, throws, chokes and joint breaks as well.
Find and art that makes you say, WOW! When you see it practiced and then take a free trial class. Get to know the instructor and students and see if you have an emotional fit with the group.
Once you start don%26#039;t quit early. The vast majority of martial arts students never go above their first or second belt rank. Stay the course, set a goal and work hard to obtain it. Martial arts are demanding but very rewarding in many many ways, but you will never realize their full potential unless you stay the course.
Good luck and enjoy each workout. Most of all have fun.
KK
Reply:Most people will just reccomend that you study whatever style it is that they do because that is where their own expertise lays.
your best bet is just to look around at all the schools in your area and find a style and a teacher that you like.
I was going to do this, however I ended up staying at the first school that I went to. Since starting I have gone to a few different places and tried training with other people and always just keep doing what I%26#039;m doing.
Any martial art will teach the aspects that you are looking for and most will only teach you weaons once you get to an advanced level anyway and by that stage you may want to learn them anyway as their is no better way to keep your self focused than swinging around something dangerous lol...
Anyway, good luck and enjoy the journey of your training, I hope it takes you where you want to go.
Reply:i know it%26#039;s thought as some to be just a growing fad but MMA is the way to go. the training that MM Artists do is very tough and takes a lot of discipline. if you read about any UFC fighter and see the stuff that they go through to condition themselves, you%26#039;ll see that it%26#039;s no picnic. you gain a knowledge of various forms of martial arts and train your body.
Reply:Actually, it would be good to learn how to use different objects for self-defense. You will still learn both self discipline and self defense, if you use %26quot;outside objects.%26quot; A lot of the Kung Fu weapons take a lot of self discipline to learn how to use. Some with weapons in Japanese arts, and even Korean arts.
Reply:Whatever art you choose, commit 100% to that style! Practice physically, breakdown and study mentally, challenge yourself to be the best you possibly can be. Self discipline is achieved through commitment. Working out when your either mentally or physically exhausted, setting goals and working to achieve them, not quitting!, this is self discipline. I%26#039;m a practitioner of the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) and as a Filipino of course I believe the FMA to be a true warriors art. We train empty hands in striking(kuntao), kicking(sikaran) and grappling(dumog) as well as with single and double weapons, stick(baston), knife(daga) and sword(espada). So pick an art and stick with it!, this will develop self discipline.
Reply:Look at all the different schools around you. Even if some are of the same styles. Same style, different instructors and different teaching methods and environment . Find a style that appeals to you.
Personally, I started off with Muay Thai (on and off due to $$). Now I find myself interested in Aikido. My friend started off in San Soo after looking at that style and Wing Chun.
Reply:Akido would fit as a good choice, because it requires absolutely perfect timing in order to be effective. the goal is to blend your energy in harmony with youre opponent adding just a little energy to his motion in order to throw or trip him, then following with a restraint hold. also achieving a black belt is a matter of 10 to 20 years of dedicated study, The translation of Akido is The way of harmony or the way of spiritual harmony.
While akido does not use weapons they do train for defence against them. also Akido is not a sport, it is not about competition, It is a purely defensive art and it takes more training to be effective for self defence, once mastered however it is very effective. Good luck in your journey, if you want to read a good book that is based on Akido Philosophy try Way of the peacefull warrior. good luck, personally I prefer Kenpo karate for strikes, Brazilian ju jitsu for submisions and Kali escrima for weapons. There is no best art but there is a best art for you!!!
Reply:hey i study tae kwon do n i would say it has wat u are after its a fluent combination of body n spirit, in all honesty tho it will depend on the school/ dojo some are more virtuous than others shotokan karate, wing chun and muay thai are also excellent if u cant find a local tkd school. hope it helps
Reply:Here are some great selling martial arts books
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Reply:Kajukenbo. Just one guy talking, But. It WORKS if YOU work IT.
lilac
Which martial arts is best for defence in case of street group attack by trouble makers?
there are millions, and am not sure which one to go for !! i need something which not only allows me to avoid being hit but to be able to cause damage aswell (dont want those b*****s to get away with it)!!
here is some of the ones that i found :
Wing chum
Taekwondo
Kick boxing
Karate
Free style karate
Jujutsu (go-shin-ryu jujitsu)
Brazilian Jiu jutsu
Shaolin kung fu
Wushu
Judo
Jeet kun do
Tai Chi Chan
Tai chi
Ninjutsu
Choi kwang Do (American karate)
Dragon-tiger shu Hapkido
Aikido
Whu-Hit-Chu
Kenpo Karate
Brazilian Kung Fu (Capoeira)
Cobra Kai
Krav Maga
Wrestling
Chi na
Shotokon
Boxing
Thanks in advance for the help ;)
[if u can also say why did u make a particular chioce]
Which martial arts is best for defence in case of street group attack by trouble makers?
What kind of fairy tale world are 27 of you living in?
Sheesh!
First off, if all those Martial Arts are available to you, then that is awesome!
Let me run this disclaimer for you, forget all these other pretenders here. No one art is going to help you in a group attack. No two or three arts is going to help you take out 3 guys, (except sheer luck). There are things that can help the very narrow odds move slightly in your favor, but mostly it will end up with you on the ground getting kicked period.
Forget all this wind pipe crushing, eye gouging. knee blasting, groin squeezing BS. 80 percent of it is horse sh*t. The other 20 percent requires a certain degree of luck, and utter stupidity on the attackers part.
Your best odds, are the you are able to really mess one of them up while receiving an asswhupping. (Aside from carrying a weapon) Maybe you can do well enough to actually haul *** and outrun them or at least get to safety. So instead of giving you some fairy tale BS theory, I will tell you how it is.
Carry a weapon, be prepared and accustomed to it%26#039;s use.
You can take any Martial Art with the proper training at a good school that will help you in how to deal with one guy.
Here is a long read but a good guide:
http://www.bullshido.com/articles/findin...
And of your list here is a small breakdown of what I think you should avoid and why.
Tai Chi: Not a combat art, and will not really help you. Except for learning how to relax when they are stomping on your face, and probably help you to breathe while removing that boot from your @ss.
Ninjitsu: Despite what a few fat white asianophiles on here will tell you, it doesn%26#039;t exist. And what was actually real ninjitsu back in the day wasn%26#039;t an art, and wasn%26#039;t a hand to hand type of style. It was methods of espionage, that is it. Don%26#039;t let some fool tell you otherwise, especially one that walks around quoting Hakagure and wears Tabis.
Aikido: Unless you are taking Tomiki Aikido chances are you will gain nothing of TRUE use from Aikido. As you will not spar, and many of the moves are done with a cooperative opponent. Nay, many of the techniques REQUIRE Uke utter cooperation. Also, despite what some believe, small joint manipulation does not work. Most people can easily fight with broken fingers, or a broken wrist, and instead of flinging themselves over, will simply just get a wrist broken. Also, nobody grabs your lapels or wrists in a real fight.
Capoeira: Beautiful, impressive, worthless. The object of the game is to NOT kick each other. And when you get football tackled while dancing, and end up on your back, not much you can do.
Chin Na: this isn%26#039;t an art itself, it is a part of many Kung Fu curriculums, just means trapping and joint manipulation, Great in theory, but if you never spar it, you can%26#039;t really know how to use it.
Any hybrid %26quot;we take the best from this and this%26quot; type of art. No one persons take on a Martial Art is the best, each style varies for individual, so what may have been best for Sensei Ed Parker isn%26#039;t necessarily the best for you and your skills or body type.
Cobra Kai: Well Marc Laimon has a dojo called Cobra Kai, which teaches BJJ and MMA, which is pretty good actually...
Krav Maga: I studied Krav for 6 months in Israel, and taken many Krav seminars here. Unfortunately there are also a ton of fitness trainers who simply did a teaching seminar and teach Krav Maga as fitness and watered down. Real Krav has resistance training, sparring, and many stimuli to enact adrenaline situations. There are a ton of places that do not do it properly, and teach it like Cardio Kickboxing, beware of them.
Essentially if you follow the guide I posted above, any school can be worthwhile as long as it trains with aliveness and resistance. You find that while doing that, many exotic techniques that are part of the art are thrown out, and actually should be. Many forms and techniques were done for fighting in a different era. 80 percent of Jujutsu (Go Shin Ryu) was envisioned to be done while wearing armor.
Again, none of this will help vs. multiple opponents but will help you some.
Go with the MMA route for the best you can do unarmed against another person. All that knee breaking, vein ripping, gross motor stuff sounds great in theory. But without practical application of it over and over against a resisting opponent, you will not have the technique down effectively enough to use it, or have any real idea of it%26#039;s effectiveness or reaction.
Additionally any art in which someone is not hitting you does not prepare you for being hit, or for how to avoid getting hit. The only way to learn how to avoid being hit, is by having some actually try to hit you repeatedly. Not throw a weak *** haymaker not intended to land, but something with actual intentions of hitting you. The air, boards, makiwara, and bags do not count.
So screw all the single answer crap, the real answer is against more than 1 person the only thing that will save your @ss is luck. Read the guide I posted above at the link to help find something that trains effectively. Ultimately it can actually help you out of tight situations but nothing is going to leave you standing with a whole bunch of dudes on the ground screaming in pain. But I take it you know that already, just want to learn how to get your licks in.
Best way is to learn how to deal with one person at a time brutally and effectively. You%26#039;ll still catch an buttkicking, but you%26#039;ll leave one of them something to remember.
Good luck in finding a Martial Art that suits you and a dojo that you love.
Reply:I know what you mean mate. I%26#039;ve had a lot of trouble with local scum, until I started boxing. And let me tell you something, when they%26#039;ve received a whack to the nose they don%26#039;t come back!!
Reply:I trained in Krav Maga since i was 18 yrs .. and it also keep you very fit too..
I learned this art in the IDF ...
Reply:Ah you seem to have left out an injection of female hormones not only do they have the power to stop trains but the female hormone also makes you super intelligent thats why they are always right, if i had a nuclear bomb as protection there are still 4 days of the month when i would not even think about retaliation just not safe
Reply:i would have to say jujitsu because its basically pressure points. u dont need to know fancy kicks to defend yourself. Use simple tactics like in jujitsu. it teaches u how to take guns away and everything. i also take jujitsu. try it. its very fun.
Reply:I%26#039;d go for Muay Thai, it%26#039;s the fastest way to knock out a great number of ppl, delivering lots of powerful blows very fast, you can even use you knees and elbow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai
=====EDIT=====
I thought of a better one: Kendo. It is not a bare-knuckle martial art, you use a katana.
Reply:The best defense is to RUN. If your about to be swarmed, best to take flight, fighting them will only get them upset and your injuries are likely to be more sever, but if you insist on fighting, Akido may be to your advantage as it takes your opponents attacks and counters/re-directs them.
Reply:it doesn%26#039;t matter what style when a group is involved as you ll still get an *** kicking,i always say take 2 throats and run like hell and live to fight another day.......im no coward and dont take stick but i know when to go
Reply:Unlike films, if you%26#039;re attacked by a group of people, they don%26#039;t usually attack one at a time. This means that even if you learned a style as best you could, there%26#039;d be one more person to take you down when you were exhausted. However, Ninjitsu is probably your best bet as it does focus on %26#039;take-down and get away%26#039;.
Alternatively, you could just use the chav style, which involves shouting %26quot;Yeah? Your mum!%26quot; and flailing at people. This is the main style in the UK and only results in bruised egos 60% of the time.
Reply:Check out Wing Chun Do it%26#039;s the quickest, fastest way of defending yourself. Derived from Wing Chun and Bruce Lee%26#039;s corrections in Martial Arts.
We learned it in the Special Tactics group I was in, in the military. I also take Aikido and have studied 12 other martial arts.
Reply:If you can%26#039;t run, get a 9mm pistol and a CCW permit.
Reply:Best thing to do is run.
For any females out there - if you are attacked - dont go for the crown jewels, go for the eyes so that they wont be able to see which direction you run
Reply:typically you gunna want to avoid jujutsu and other ground type fighting , because in a group fight the last place you want to be is on the ground
pretty much any art you get into will teach multi opponent fighting
but the best advice to give is to learn to line them up then take them one at a time
do this by moving away from the crowd then when they come at you theyll get behind one another. it takes practice but adventually a group fight will feel like one on one, just over and over again.
Reply:Cobra Kai
Not that wussy version found in Canada but the one taught by Sensei Kreese.
Reply:All styles of martial arts are effective when use properly, if you train for multiple attackers then your training with automatically take over no matter what style. They all are great each with its own strengths,if you want the best style learn a few styles then make your own from each.remember once you learn a style or fight system over time you will modify it to your liking ie,kicks,punching take downs you will never do a form or fight like the guy you have been training with for 5 years,he fights his way and you yours with your system of fighting as a base
Reply:I personally like a .357 Magnum,it works wonders.Get a speed loader and practice reloading the gun too.You may never need to do so,but who knows?
I chose this because of its effectiveness.I am not going to fight multiple attackers physically if I can help it.
It works against dogs and cars too.
Reply:Any of the styles you listed could save your life in a street fight. What is most important is your mindset. You can a highly trained martial artist but if you can not keep your head and cool in a real life encounter than your training is of no use.
Reply:Don%26#039;t listen to the brainwashing if you have multiple attackers bent on hurting you, you had better run or you are going to get a beat down.
Too many people here have been brainwashed by their schools telling them their art is faster, stronger and can handle situations just like Bruce and Chuck............ and keep the money coming.
I know everyone has a buddy who beat up a couple of guys or so he says and we can all find a video on You Tube of a guy beating up two drunk guys. That is not real world, most everytime multiple attackers means a beating.
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:well hmm this is a hard one if you are getting ganged up best idea is too run away... But if that is impossible there are actually many marital arts to help... But u will get hit no matter which martial arts u take. DO NOT take judo, shaolin kung fu wrestling boxing. These def does not help cmon wrestling and judo is grappling and throwing u get one person down what about the others while u grapple the person? thats why u want a martial arts thats hit and get away or hit powerfully to keep them down. TKD is a very good idea and so is Kenpo
Reply:Any experienced martial artist will tell you, the best form of self defence is BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Real life is not like the movies, it dosn%26#039;t matter how good you are in the Dojo, against a (probably armed) gang injury or death is a serious risk.
In answer to your question Ju-Jitsu is a good place to start as it is effective and not as %26quot;formal%26quot; about style +technique as many other Traditional martial arts.
Reply:It%26#039;s not the style. It%26#039;s the man fighting.
Reply:People are gonna say Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu because they watch UFC but I would say without doubt Muay Thai.
In the case of BJJ, if you%26#039;re dealing with more than one person/attacker the others are not going to stand around and wait for you to triangle choke them out one by one. They%26#039;ll all attack you at once.
Muay Thai will teach you how to utilise a clinch enabling you to deliver knees and elbows from close range...much more effective in real life situation than a gogoplata. When delivering strikes aim at your attackers noses, you%26#039;ll be surprised how many people will wheel backwards and not want to fight anymore once their nose is broken.
I hope this helps.
Reply:I would suggest Ba-Gua, I have been a student for 7 years. It is designed specifically to fight more than 1 opponent. I have found it to be a complete system. I have taken Judo and TKD and feel Ba-Gua has much MUCH more to offer.
Reply:You want a stand up striking style. Preferable 1 that has a lot of foot techniques. You would need to keep moving %26amp; use kicks to maintain separation from the attackers.
Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do %26amp; northern Shaolin all fit these requirements.
Reply:I would go with Aikido,That is what it was made to do multiple attackers, and avoid getting hit.When i say multiple attackers I dont mean one at a time. I mean all at once,use your 8 direction%26#039;s of movement. your 12,6,3,9,1,7,11,and 5 o%26#039;clock posistions. When they gather around pick the closest to you.Because more than likely they will be the first to attack.Once they do take there macanics away from them.By either snapping a joint or spinning them around putting them between you and the other attackers.Then throw them back at the rest of the crowd . Giving you time to move for the next attack.Once you either snap a few elbows,wrist,shoulders, they will prob. leave you alone. But if not and they still keep coming.Like I said take there macanics away from them breaking there fingers,wrist,elbows,shoulders,knees,it dont take that mush preasure to break a joint. They can be stronger and bigger than you but there joints break just the same as a smaller persons does.All this may sound harder than Japanese math. but once you start taking Aikido you will soon know how easy it is to take on multiple attackers. I am not saying that it is easy by no means,but with the thing about multiple attackers each and every one of them think that they have you. Instead of only fighting one person. I hope you are getting what Im tring to say here.
The reason that I said Aikido is because I have had to use it on more than once on multiple people at once.I use to be a partol officer and was always getting calls to go out and break up a group of people.
Good Luck on what ever style you choose on taking
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:The styles name is kajukenbo.
Reply:Try Ninjutsu, because you can always throw one of those exploding smoke bomb thingies and run like hell the moment those guys rush you : P
Reply:I think it all comes down to you. are you a foghter? are you aggresive? can you committ to crushing someones knee cap? in group fights all you really need to do is find the leader and crush his knee cap. the others are supposed to run off and get scared.
here is some of the ones that i found :
Wing chum
Taekwondo
Kick boxing
Karate
Free style karate
Jujutsu (go-shin-ryu jujitsu)
Brazilian Jiu jutsu
Shaolin kung fu
Wushu
Judo
Jeet kun do
Tai Chi Chan
Tai chi
Ninjutsu
Choi kwang Do (American karate)
Dragon-tiger shu Hapkido
Aikido
Whu-Hit-Chu
Kenpo Karate
Brazilian Kung Fu (Capoeira)
Cobra Kai
Krav Maga
Wrestling
Chi na
Shotokon
Boxing
Thanks in advance for the help ;)
[if u can also say why did u make a particular chioce]
Which martial arts is best for defence in case of street group attack by trouble makers?
What kind of fairy tale world are 27 of you living in?
Sheesh!
First off, if all those Martial Arts are available to you, then that is awesome!
Let me run this disclaimer for you, forget all these other pretenders here. No one art is going to help you in a group attack. No two or three arts is going to help you take out 3 guys, (except sheer luck). There are things that can help the very narrow odds move slightly in your favor, but mostly it will end up with you on the ground getting kicked period.
Forget all this wind pipe crushing, eye gouging. knee blasting, groin squeezing BS. 80 percent of it is horse sh*t. The other 20 percent requires a certain degree of luck, and utter stupidity on the attackers part.
Your best odds, are the you are able to really mess one of them up while receiving an asswhupping. (Aside from carrying a weapon) Maybe you can do well enough to actually haul *** and outrun them or at least get to safety. So instead of giving you some fairy tale BS theory, I will tell you how it is.
Carry a weapon, be prepared and accustomed to it%26#039;s use.
You can take any Martial Art with the proper training at a good school that will help you in how to deal with one guy.
Here is a long read but a good guide:
http://www.bullshido.com/articles/findin...
And of your list here is a small breakdown of what I think you should avoid and why.
Tai Chi: Not a combat art, and will not really help you. Except for learning how to relax when they are stomping on your face, and probably help you to breathe while removing that boot from your @ss.
Ninjitsu: Despite what a few fat white asianophiles on here will tell you, it doesn%26#039;t exist. And what was actually real ninjitsu back in the day wasn%26#039;t an art, and wasn%26#039;t a hand to hand type of style. It was methods of espionage, that is it. Don%26#039;t let some fool tell you otherwise, especially one that walks around quoting Hakagure and wears Tabis.
Aikido: Unless you are taking Tomiki Aikido chances are you will gain nothing of TRUE use from Aikido. As you will not spar, and many of the moves are done with a cooperative opponent. Nay, many of the techniques REQUIRE Uke utter cooperation. Also, despite what some believe, small joint manipulation does not work. Most people can easily fight with broken fingers, or a broken wrist, and instead of flinging themselves over, will simply just get a wrist broken. Also, nobody grabs your lapels or wrists in a real fight.
Capoeira: Beautiful, impressive, worthless. The object of the game is to NOT kick each other. And when you get football tackled while dancing, and end up on your back, not much you can do.
Chin Na: this isn%26#039;t an art itself, it is a part of many Kung Fu curriculums, just means trapping and joint manipulation, Great in theory, but if you never spar it, you can%26#039;t really know how to use it.
Any hybrid %26quot;we take the best from this and this%26quot; type of art. No one persons take on a Martial Art is the best, each style varies for individual, so what may have been best for Sensei Ed Parker isn%26#039;t necessarily the best for you and your skills or body type.
Cobra Kai: Well Marc Laimon has a dojo called Cobra Kai, which teaches BJJ and MMA, which is pretty good actually...
Krav Maga: I studied Krav for 6 months in Israel, and taken many Krav seminars here. Unfortunately there are also a ton of fitness trainers who simply did a teaching seminar and teach Krav Maga as fitness and watered down. Real Krav has resistance training, sparring, and many stimuli to enact adrenaline situations. There are a ton of places that do not do it properly, and teach it like Cardio Kickboxing, beware of them.
Essentially if you follow the guide I posted above, any school can be worthwhile as long as it trains with aliveness and resistance. You find that while doing that, many exotic techniques that are part of the art are thrown out, and actually should be. Many forms and techniques were done for fighting in a different era. 80 percent of Jujutsu (Go Shin Ryu) was envisioned to be done while wearing armor.
Again, none of this will help vs. multiple opponents but will help you some.
Go with the MMA route for the best you can do unarmed against another person. All that knee breaking, vein ripping, gross motor stuff sounds great in theory. But without practical application of it over and over against a resisting opponent, you will not have the technique down effectively enough to use it, or have any real idea of it%26#039;s effectiveness or reaction.
Additionally any art in which someone is not hitting you does not prepare you for being hit, or for how to avoid getting hit. The only way to learn how to avoid being hit, is by having some actually try to hit you repeatedly. Not throw a weak *** haymaker not intended to land, but something with actual intentions of hitting you. The air, boards, makiwara, and bags do not count.
So screw all the single answer crap, the real answer is against more than 1 person the only thing that will save your @ss is luck. Read the guide I posted above at the link to help find something that trains effectively. Ultimately it can actually help you out of tight situations but nothing is going to leave you standing with a whole bunch of dudes on the ground screaming in pain. But I take it you know that already, just want to learn how to get your licks in.
Best way is to learn how to deal with one person at a time brutally and effectively. You%26#039;ll still catch an buttkicking, but you%26#039;ll leave one of them something to remember.
Good luck in finding a Martial Art that suits you and a dojo that you love.
Reply:I know what you mean mate. I%26#039;ve had a lot of trouble with local scum, until I started boxing. And let me tell you something, when they%26#039;ve received a whack to the nose they don%26#039;t come back!!
Reply:I trained in Krav Maga since i was 18 yrs .. and it also keep you very fit too..
I learned this art in the IDF ...
Reply:Ah you seem to have left out an injection of female hormones not only do they have the power to stop trains but the female hormone also makes you super intelligent thats why they are always right, if i had a nuclear bomb as protection there are still 4 days of the month when i would not even think about retaliation just not safe
Reply:i would have to say jujitsu because its basically pressure points. u dont need to know fancy kicks to defend yourself. Use simple tactics like in jujitsu. it teaches u how to take guns away and everything. i also take jujitsu. try it. its very fun.
Reply:I%26#039;d go for Muay Thai, it%26#039;s the fastest way to knock out a great number of ppl, delivering lots of powerful blows very fast, you can even use you knees and elbow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai
=====EDIT=====
I thought of a better one: Kendo. It is not a bare-knuckle martial art, you use a katana.
Reply:The best defense is to RUN. If your about to be swarmed, best to take flight, fighting them will only get them upset and your injuries are likely to be more sever, but if you insist on fighting, Akido may be to your advantage as it takes your opponents attacks and counters/re-directs them.
Reply:it doesn%26#039;t matter what style when a group is involved as you ll still get an *** kicking,i always say take 2 throats and run like hell and live to fight another day.......im no coward and dont take stick but i know when to go
Reply:Unlike films, if you%26#039;re attacked by a group of people, they don%26#039;t usually attack one at a time. This means that even if you learned a style as best you could, there%26#039;d be one more person to take you down when you were exhausted. However, Ninjitsu is probably your best bet as it does focus on %26#039;take-down and get away%26#039;.
Alternatively, you could just use the chav style, which involves shouting %26quot;Yeah? Your mum!%26quot; and flailing at people. This is the main style in the UK and only results in bruised egos 60% of the time.
Reply:Check out Wing Chun Do it%26#039;s the quickest, fastest way of defending yourself. Derived from Wing Chun and Bruce Lee%26#039;s corrections in Martial Arts.
We learned it in the Special Tactics group I was in, in the military. I also take Aikido and have studied 12 other martial arts.
Reply:If you can%26#039;t run, get a 9mm pistol and a CCW permit.
Reply:Best thing to do is run.
For any females out there - if you are attacked - dont go for the crown jewels, go for the eyes so that they wont be able to see which direction you run
Reply:typically you gunna want to avoid jujutsu and other ground type fighting , because in a group fight the last place you want to be is on the ground
pretty much any art you get into will teach multi opponent fighting
but the best advice to give is to learn to line them up then take them one at a time
do this by moving away from the crowd then when they come at you theyll get behind one another. it takes practice but adventually a group fight will feel like one on one, just over and over again.
Reply:Cobra Kai
Not that wussy version found in Canada but the one taught by Sensei Kreese.
Reply:All styles of martial arts are effective when use properly, if you train for multiple attackers then your training with automatically take over no matter what style. They all are great each with its own strengths,if you want the best style learn a few styles then make your own from each.remember once you learn a style or fight system over time you will modify it to your liking ie,kicks,punching take downs you will never do a form or fight like the guy you have been training with for 5 years,he fights his way and you yours with your system of fighting as a base
Reply:I personally like a .357 Magnum,it works wonders.Get a speed loader and practice reloading the gun too.You may never need to do so,but who knows?
I chose this because of its effectiveness.I am not going to fight multiple attackers physically if I can help it.
It works against dogs and cars too.
Reply:Any of the styles you listed could save your life in a street fight. What is most important is your mindset. You can a highly trained martial artist but if you can not keep your head and cool in a real life encounter than your training is of no use.
Reply:Don%26#039;t listen to the brainwashing if you have multiple attackers bent on hurting you, you had better run or you are going to get a beat down.
Too many people here have been brainwashed by their schools telling them their art is faster, stronger and can handle situations just like Bruce and Chuck............ and keep the money coming.
I know everyone has a buddy who beat up a couple of guys or so he says and we can all find a video on You Tube of a guy beating up two drunk guys. That is not real world, most everytime multiple attackers means a beating.
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:well hmm this is a hard one if you are getting ganged up best idea is too run away... But if that is impossible there are actually many marital arts to help... But u will get hit no matter which martial arts u take. DO NOT take judo, shaolin kung fu wrestling boxing. These def does not help cmon wrestling and judo is grappling and throwing u get one person down what about the others while u grapple the person? thats why u want a martial arts thats hit and get away or hit powerfully to keep them down. TKD is a very good idea and so is Kenpo
Reply:Any experienced martial artist will tell you, the best form of self defence is BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Real life is not like the movies, it dosn%26#039;t matter how good you are in the Dojo, against a (probably armed) gang injury or death is a serious risk.
In answer to your question Ju-Jitsu is a good place to start as it is effective and not as %26quot;formal%26quot; about style +technique as many other Traditional martial arts.
Reply:It%26#039;s not the style. It%26#039;s the man fighting.
Reply:People are gonna say Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu because they watch UFC but I would say without doubt Muay Thai.
In the case of BJJ, if you%26#039;re dealing with more than one person/attacker the others are not going to stand around and wait for you to triangle choke them out one by one. They%26#039;ll all attack you at once.
Muay Thai will teach you how to utilise a clinch enabling you to deliver knees and elbows from close range...much more effective in real life situation than a gogoplata. When delivering strikes aim at your attackers noses, you%26#039;ll be surprised how many people will wheel backwards and not want to fight anymore once their nose is broken.
I hope this helps.
Reply:I would suggest Ba-Gua, I have been a student for 7 years. It is designed specifically to fight more than 1 opponent. I have found it to be a complete system. I have taken Judo and TKD and feel Ba-Gua has much MUCH more to offer.
Reply:You want a stand up striking style. Preferable 1 that has a lot of foot techniques. You would need to keep moving %26amp; use kicks to maintain separation from the attackers.
Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do %26amp; northern Shaolin all fit these requirements.
Reply:I would go with Aikido,That is what it was made to do multiple attackers, and avoid getting hit.When i say multiple attackers I dont mean one at a time. I mean all at once,use your 8 direction%26#039;s of movement. your 12,6,3,9,1,7,11,and 5 o%26#039;clock posistions. When they gather around pick the closest to you.Because more than likely they will be the first to attack.Once they do take there macanics away from them.By either snapping a joint or spinning them around putting them between you and the other attackers.Then throw them back at the rest of the crowd . Giving you time to move for the next attack.Once you either snap a few elbows,wrist,shoulders, they will prob. leave you alone. But if not and they still keep coming.Like I said take there macanics away from them breaking there fingers,wrist,elbows,shoulders,knees,it dont take that mush preasure to break a joint. They can be stronger and bigger than you but there joints break just the same as a smaller persons does.All this may sound harder than Japanese math. but once you start taking Aikido you will soon know how easy it is to take on multiple attackers. I am not saying that it is easy by no means,but with the thing about multiple attackers each and every one of them think that they have you. Instead of only fighting one person. I hope you are getting what Im tring to say here.
The reason that I said Aikido is because I have had to use it on more than once on multiple people at once.I use to be a partol officer and was always getting calls to go out and break up a group of people.
Good Luck on what ever style you choose on taking
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:The styles name is kajukenbo.
Reply:Try Ninjutsu, because you can always throw one of those exploding smoke bomb thingies and run like hell the moment those guys rush you : P
Reply:I think it all comes down to you. are you a foghter? are you aggresive? can you committ to crushing someones knee cap? in group fights all you really need to do is find the leader and crush his knee cap. the others are supposed to run off and get scared.
Baguazhang internal martial arts?
I%26#039;ve looked at Yin style Baguazhang and Nine-Dragon Baguazhang.. What is it good for, and what are the differences from any other style? I%26#039;m thinking about learning it but I am not sure if it will be useful to me.
Baguazhang internal martial arts?
Baguazhang also Pa Kua Chang, is an internal martial art based on the eight trigrams of the I-Ching. It also has been influenced by hsing-i (also XingYi). It focuses on circular movement around the opponent to land strikes. This style prides itself on its footwork and on the ability to reverse direction any time during any movement.
It is a useful style and very interesting but conflicts with martial theories which advocate controlling the opponent around you rather than moving around the opponent.
It is a very effective striking style in my opinion however.
Reply:If you are asking if it is different from any other style of art, I would say it is obvious.
Its principles are based on the I-Ching, the book of changes... the Bagua, the eight trigrams... the Yin Yang theory, and the five element theory.
It is an internal art which utilizes palm strikes while projecting Qi. This is a very deadly combination and not every Baguazhang teacher knows how to do this.
All techniques require coiling energy to be executed properly.
Luckily, not many people know how to use this.
The differences in Baguazhang styles lie in the ways the style developer applied his art. But they are basically the same.
Baguazhang internal martial arts?
Baguazhang also Pa Kua Chang, is an internal martial art based on the eight trigrams of the I-Ching. It also has been influenced by hsing-i (also XingYi). It focuses on circular movement around the opponent to land strikes. This style prides itself on its footwork and on the ability to reverse direction any time during any movement.
It is a useful style and very interesting but conflicts with martial theories which advocate controlling the opponent around you rather than moving around the opponent.
It is a very effective striking style in my opinion however.
Reply:If you are asking if it is different from any other style of art, I would say it is obvious.
Its principles are based on the I-Ching, the book of changes... the Bagua, the eight trigrams... the Yin Yang theory, and the five element theory.
It is an internal art which utilizes palm strikes while projecting Qi. This is a very deadly combination and not every Baguazhang teacher knows how to do this.
All techniques require coiling energy to be executed properly.
Luckily, not many people know how to use this.
The differences in Baguazhang styles lie in the ways the style developer applied his art. But they are basically the same.
If I were looking for something in martial arts?
Let%26#039;s say I was looking for one thing in ma, regardless as to what it was i.e. fighting, fitness, etc. Say I found a perfect example in some art. Now lets say that I find I dislike the style, even as it has the perfect example as to what I seek. Let%26#039;s say that there is no other style that has this thing I look for.
What to do? Change the reason for what I want from it? Decide that maybe I am not really into what I think I want? Any other ideas?
By the way this is a total what if question, just looking for ideas, not real.
If I were looking for something in martial arts?
Well if they have one thing that is exactly what you%26#039;re looking for as one of its elements, maybe you were too quick to dismiss the art as a whole. I%26#039;d tough it out for a little bit at least, and see if experiencing the art won%26#039;t give you a better appreciation of it.
Reply:You study it. We all have likes and dislikes in everything, nothing is perfect.
What to do? Change the reason for what I want from it? Decide that maybe I am not really into what I think I want? Any other ideas?
By the way this is a total what if question, just looking for ideas, not real.
If I were looking for something in martial arts?
Well if they have one thing that is exactly what you%26#039;re looking for as one of its elements, maybe you were too quick to dismiss the art as a whole. I%26#039;d tough it out for a little bit at least, and see if experiencing the art won%26#039;t give you a better appreciation of it.
Reply:You study it. We all have likes and dislikes in everything, nothing is perfect.
Do you know any good Martial Arts instructional videoes or books?
books or videos for:
Jeet Kune Do, Kenpo, Shaolin, Kung Fu animal styles (for example tiger), Mantis Style, etc.
anything but not karate or tae kwon do
Do you know any good Martial Arts instructional videoes or books?
To really learn martial arts, you need an instructor to correct you when your wrong, to push you to do a better, deeper stance, and to answer all your questions. I would not try to learn any martial arts from a book or video without at least being a black belt level first.
... And whats wrong with Karate???
Reply:wle.com is great for videos, books, weapons, tools, etc. I love that place! Hope you like it. But like the Sensei said, you should have a proper teacher! Report It
Reply:I would get some jiu-jitsu videos, but watching videos and doing the sport are two different things.
Reply:The power of internal martial arts by kumar frantzis
Reply:go to www.turtlepress.com they sell all kinds of martial arts videos and books.
Reply:Combat sports is who i use.
http://www.combatsports.com/onthemat.asp...
http://www.combatsports.com/SearchResult...
Jeet Kune Do, Kenpo, Shaolin, Kung Fu animal styles (for example tiger), Mantis Style, etc.
anything but not karate or tae kwon do
Do you know any good Martial Arts instructional videoes or books?
To really learn martial arts, you need an instructor to correct you when your wrong, to push you to do a better, deeper stance, and to answer all your questions. I would not try to learn any martial arts from a book or video without at least being a black belt level first.
... And whats wrong with Karate???
Reply:wle.com is great for videos, books, weapons, tools, etc. I love that place! Hope you like it. But like the Sensei said, you should have a proper teacher! Report It
Reply:I would get some jiu-jitsu videos, but watching videos and doing the sport are two different things.
Reply:The power of internal martial arts by kumar frantzis
Reply:go to www.turtlepress.com they sell all kinds of martial arts videos and books.
Reply:Combat sports is who i use.
http://www.combatsports.com/onthemat.asp...
http://www.combatsports.com/SearchResult...
In martial arts?
are they styles difference all do they all tell you to wait to be attack , like my friend sez he could take ten people on is it true they teach you that? i seen it in the protector he took out hundred guys but thats hollywood he sez its true plz experts settle this ty
In martial arts?
In Aikido we do multiple attacks up to 6 or more people at once
Reply:i could own you in a fight I did martial arts for 4 years about 60 years ago
Reply:come back to earth there hipolito M
Reply:I%26#039;ll tell you what my kung fu teacher always told me - stay out of the movies.
Reply:To prove you are ready for this knowledge you must first snatch the shift key from your keyboard.
Ahh... I see you have already done so.
The answer you seek is this: It depends.
Reply:No. The thing is, it%26#039;s not like the movies where they all wait to attack you. They all attack at once. I couldn%26#039;t even do two, and that%26#039;s being in Tae Kwon Do for 10 years (2nd degree black belt)
Reply:Well your friend is lying FOR SURE.
Any REAL martial artist would know how unrealistic that is.
Hollywood is Hollywood, real life is a whole other world.
Ten guys is EXTREMELY unrealistic, unless you%26#039;re a master and have been training your whole life. I%26#039;m not talking age 5-15, I%26#039;m talking 5-60. Those kind of people are the ones who at least have a chance. Your friend is just trying to act cool.
Reply:It is possible to take 10 people, but it is unlikely for most people. One day our school was doing a demonstration. Our head instructor had 5 guy attack me at once. We had no idea this was going to be part of the demonstration. We were on a hardwood floor. I was taking the down, but I was trying not to hurt them. What worked to my advantage was that they were afraid to attack me unless someone else had me. If we had mats I would have used some throws to go along with my take downs.
No one can take on 100 guys. You would be too tired to fight.
Reply:They teach you not only to wait and counter, but to be aggressive as well.
Your friend is delusional.
You based your knowledge on the movie the protector??
good luck!
Reply:well I%26#039;m sure with an enormous amount of luck and skill you could take out 10 ten guy, but probably not
Reply:%26quot;Fesik how many can you handle?%26quot;
%26quot;Ten at the most Eniguo%26quot;
%26quot;That leaves twenty for me,
even at my best I cannot defeat that many... We need the man in Black!%26quot;
%26quot;He bested your strength and defeated my Steel!, any man that could do that can plan my castle onslaught any Day!%26quot;
%26quot;Where are we going Eniguo?%26quot;
%26quot;To find the man in black of course!%26quot;
Reply:its all crap dude. There are ways to beat a few guys but mostly it involves hitting the first guy when he isn%26#039;t ready and barging through that gap to get away from the rest of the group.
No martial arts champion or special forces guy in the world hangs around to try and beat 10 or even 3 guys if he can help it.
The best styles are full contact ones like boxing,. kickboxing, muay thai, MMA etc.
You learn to fight one guy really well, and that any more than that street smarts tells you to look for escape.
In martial arts?
In Aikido we do multiple attacks up to 6 or more people at once
Reply:i could own you in a fight I did martial arts for 4 years about 60 years ago
Reply:come back to earth there hipolito M
Reply:I%26#039;ll tell you what my kung fu teacher always told me - stay out of the movies.
Reply:To prove you are ready for this knowledge you must first snatch the shift key from your keyboard.
Ahh... I see you have already done so.
The answer you seek is this: It depends.
Reply:No. The thing is, it%26#039;s not like the movies where they all wait to attack you. They all attack at once. I couldn%26#039;t even do two, and that%26#039;s being in Tae Kwon Do for 10 years (2nd degree black belt)
Reply:Well your friend is lying FOR SURE.
Any REAL martial artist would know how unrealistic that is.
Hollywood is Hollywood, real life is a whole other world.
Ten guys is EXTREMELY unrealistic, unless you%26#039;re a master and have been training your whole life. I%26#039;m not talking age 5-15, I%26#039;m talking 5-60. Those kind of people are the ones who at least have a chance. Your friend is just trying to act cool.
Reply:It is possible to take 10 people, but it is unlikely for most people. One day our school was doing a demonstration. Our head instructor had 5 guy attack me at once. We had no idea this was going to be part of the demonstration. We were on a hardwood floor. I was taking the down, but I was trying not to hurt them. What worked to my advantage was that they were afraid to attack me unless someone else had me. If we had mats I would have used some throws to go along with my take downs.
No one can take on 100 guys. You would be too tired to fight.
Reply:They teach you not only to wait and counter, but to be aggressive as well.
Your friend is delusional.
You based your knowledge on the movie the protector??
good luck!
Reply:well I%26#039;m sure with an enormous amount of luck and skill you could take out 10 ten guy, but probably not
Reply:%26quot;Fesik how many can you handle?%26quot;
%26quot;Ten at the most Eniguo%26quot;
%26quot;That leaves twenty for me,
even at my best I cannot defeat that many... We need the man in Black!%26quot;
%26quot;He bested your strength and defeated my Steel!, any man that could do that can plan my castle onslaught any Day!%26quot;
%26quot;Where are we going Eniguo?%26quot;
%26quot;To find the man in black of course!%26quot;
Reply:its all crap dude. There are ways to beat a few guys but mostly it involves hitting the first guy when he isn%26#039;t ready and barging through that gap to get away from the rest of the group.
No martial arts champion or special forces guy in the world hangs around to try and beat 10 or even 3 guys if he can help it.
The best styles are full contact ones like boxing,. kickboxing, muay thai, MMA etc.
You learn to fight one guy really well, and that any more than that street smarts tells you to look for escape.
What martial Arts SHould My mother take?
I take shotokan karate but that is to intinse for my mother and my mother dosent want to fight in tournaments but if some one attacks her she wants to be able to defend herself she wants to stay in shap and not to much of an agressive styles but somthing more focused on fitness.
What martial Arts SHould My mother take?
Krav Maga
Reply:try kick boxing
Reply:Buy her a gun. It%26#039;s the ultimate equalizer.
Reply:Kung fu.
Reply:I agree with sixmillinoways above. Learning martial arts for an older woman is a self-deception and it%26#039;s not going to work in actuality. Don%26#039;t subject her to wasting her time and money.
It will work, however, for the karate school because her money is as good as anyone else%26#039;s.
Reply:Judo is a great martial art for older people. It one of the safest.
Reply:Tae kwon do is a popular and all around great art to learn-self defense,cardio,discipline and weapons training at advanced levels--it is low impact when training, no fighting ness. if it is not wanted-never know maybe mom could take someones weapon if she is ever approached and turn the situation around!
Reply:i depends on how old she is you kno if she old she should take (can of whip ***) u kno but really she should really think about trying boxing and judo that way she knows what she doin up top and if someone trys to take her down she can throw in a komora and brake there arm it dont cost that much to learn.
Reply:Shotokan is usually pretty easy on the body... Gichin Funakoshi practiced actively until the age of 90. If your Shotokan school doesn%26#039;t offer a class for older adults, you may want to try Tai Chi. If you can find a %26quot;Chen%26quot; Tai Chi they almost always teach self-defense appliable moves along with the forms. Often other Tai Chi instructors also teach self-defense along with Tai Chi, or Push Hands and Chin Na... but many just use it as a New Age meditation device, and drop the martial art out of one of the oldest martial arts. So, you%26#039;ll have to do research. We have at least one Yang Tai Chi class close to me where you take one class in Tai Chi (the basic form) and a conjunct class in Chin Na. (The applications of the form)
Reply:Depends on what kind of fitness she%26#039;s looking for, cardio, strength or flexibility. I can%26#039;t answer for you, but if my daughter expressed interest in the martial arts, I%26#039;d steer them towards Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Much more based on leverage, flexibility and thinking as opposed to brute force. Search on youtube for some clips of the Gracies, the most famous version of BJJ. I remember seeing something on ESPN once about it and it%26#039;s intrigued me since, especially since the rise of MMA.
Reply:There is a great misconception about TaiChi, in that people don%26#039;t think it can be used for self defense. Tai Chi Chuan etc.
If she finds the right instructor (one who actually knows Tai Chi, in all it%26#039;s aspects) Practitioner rather than player; then it would be an effective art for her. It doesn%26#039;t rely on physical stature or force. No I%26#039;m am not one of those one art practitioners, and TaiChi is just one art. Push hands (just one technique)executed correctly can launch one across a room.
Reply:i would sugest taekwondo because there are tournaments but she don%26#039;t have to do it. taekwondo is for all ages. there are 50 and 60 yaer olds that do it even older too.
Reply:Honestly I think it really isnt%26#039; about the style but the instructor or school they go to. At the school I go to - which is a pretty hard core traditional kung fu school, we have much older people joining all the time and do well. The idea is they have to have an instructor that can build them up slowly - and of course make sure the tournaments are not required and fighting is not required. Most schools have like an intro course she could take and see. At my school we have a 65 year old that just started martial arts for the first time in his life and while he moves slower - he seems to be doing very well.
Reply:I would go with a practical style of Aikido. I know there are many styles of Aikido and alot of them are not practical styles.Look around for a good Aikido Dojo.
here are two very practical styles.
Shinbu Aikido,Tomiki Aikido,
here is my website www.sleepingstormaikido.com
Reply:Shop the instructor and school-not the style. A good, knowledgeable instructor will take your mother and do the best for her based on her age and what her reasons are for taking martial arts. While martial arts was never meant to be started for the first time by people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s you will find some instructors have modified their approach to things to take this segment into account.
There are some aspects that I teach my older students about and how to do. It%26#039;s an entirely different thing to expect them to actually perform those aspects. I teach them alternate methods and techniques to use in place of the more difficult ones and I certainly don%26#039;t expect them to fight in tournaments.
There are many older or aged martial artists that have never competed and never will who can adequately defend themselves and be aggressive when its called for.
Reply:American Kenpo Karate would be very good for her, since the kicks are generally low, and the techniques and forms are very practical.
Reply:tia chi is a good example for your mother. there are plenty of schools that are self defense based.it dosent mater about the style they all have tourment based schools and self defense schools. so look at the schools not the style
Reply:Any martial art can be modified to anyone individual. Kenpo and Hapkido are 2 great arts that can be easily modified for older individuals. Hapkido also has great cane fighting techniques. My mother trains in Kenpo and is 67 years old.
What martial Arts SHould My mother take?
Krav Maga
Reply:try kick boxing
Reply:Buy her a gun. It%26#039;s the ultimate equalizer.
Reply:Kung fu.
Reply:I agree with sixmillinoways above. Learning martial arts for an older woman is a self-deception and it%26#039;s not going to work in actuality. Don%26#039;t subject her to wasting her time and money.
It will work, however, for the karate school because her money is as good as anyone else%26#039;s.
Reply:Judo is a great martial art for older people. It one of the safest.
Reply:Tae kwon do is a popular and all around great art to learn-self defense,cardio,discipline and weapons training at advanced levels--it is low impact when training, no fighting ness. if it is not wanted-never know maybe mom could take someones weapon if she is ever approached and turn the situation around!
Reply:i depends on how old she is you kno if she old she should take (can of whip ***) u kno but really she should really think about trying boxing and judo that way she knows what she doin up top and if someone trys to take her down she can throw in a komora and brake there arm it dont cost that much to learn.
Reply:Shotokan is usually pretty easy on the body... Gichin Funakoshi practiced actively until the age of 90. If your Shotokan school doesn%26#039;t offer a class for older adults, you may want to try Tai Chi. If you can find a %26quot;Chen%26quot; Tai Chi they almost always teach self-defense appliable moves along with the forms. Often other Tai Chi instructors also teach self-defense along with Tai Chi, or Push Hands and Chin Na... but many just use it as a New Age meditation device, and drop the martial art out of one of the oldest martial arts. So, you%26#039;ll have to do research. We have at least one Yang Tai Chi class close to me where you take one class in Tai Chi (the basic form) and a conjunct class in Chin Na. (The applications of the form)
Reply:Depends on what kind of fitness she%26#039;s looking for, cardio, strength or flexibility. I can%26#039;t answer for you, but if my daughter expressed interest in the martial arts, I%26#039;d steer them towards Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Much more based on leverage, flexibility and thinking as opposed to brute force. Search on youtube for some clips of the Gracies, the most famous version of BJJ. I remember seeing something on ESPN once about it and it%26#039;s intrigued me since, especially since the rise of MMA.
Reply:There is a great misconception about TaiChi, in that people don%26#039;t think it can be used for self defense. Tai Chi Chuan etc.
If she finds the right instructor (one who actually knows Tai Chi, in all it%26#039;s aspects) Practitioner rather than player; then it would be an effective art for her. It doesn%26#039;t rely on physical stature or force. No I%26#039;m am not one of those one art practitioners, and TaiChi is just one art. Push hands (just one technique)executed correctly can launch one across a room.
Reply:i would sugest taekwondo because there are tournaments but she don%26#039;t have to do it. taekwondo is for all ages. there are 50 and 60 yaer olds that do it even older too.
Reply:Honestly I think it really isnt%26#039; about the style but the instructor or school they go to. At the school I go to - which is a pretty hard core traditional kung fu school, we have much older people joining all the time and do well. The idea is they have to have an instructor that can build them up slowly - and of course make sure the tournaments are not required and fighting is not required. Most schools have like an intro course she could take and see. At my school we have a 65 year old that just started martial arts for the first time in his life and while he moves slower - he seems to be doing very well.
Reply:I would go with a practical style of Aikido. I know there are many styles of Aikido and alot of them are not practical styles.Look around for a good Aikido Dojo.
here are two very practical styles.
Shinbu Aikido,Tomiki Aikido,
here is my website www.sleepingstormaikido.com
Reply:Shop the instructor and school-not the style. A good, knowledgeable instructor will take your mother and do the best for her based on her age and what her reasons are for taking martial arts. While martial arts was never meant to be started for the first time by people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s you will find some instructors have modified their approach to things to take this segment into account.
There are some aspects that I teach my older students about and how to do. It%26#039;s an entirely different thing to expect them to actually perform those aspects. I teach them alternate methods and techniques to use in place of the more difficult ones and I certainly don%26#039;t expect them to fight in tournaments.
There are many older or aged martial artists that have never competed and never will who can adequately defend themselves and be aggressive when its called for.
Reply:American Kenpo Karate would be very good for her, since the kicks are generally low, and the techniques and forms are very practical.
Reply:tia chi is a good example for your mother. there are plenty of schools that are self defense based.it dosent mater about the style they all have tourment based schools and self defense schools. so look at the schools not the style
Reply:Any martial art can be modified to anyone individual. Kenpo and Hapkido are 2 great arts that can be easily modified for older individuals. Hapkido also has great cane fighting techniques. My mother trains in Kenpo and is 67 years old.
Australian Martial arts NAS?
in general with the NAS (national all styles tournament) what are the top clubs that win most of the events these days any specifically south australiia but any state will be cool thanks
Australian Martial arts NAS?
The NAS was dominated by GKR Karate schools. With most of the rules writen in a way that it favoured their style.
To my knowledge the rules have been slowly changing to encourage different styles to enter and as a result GKR has pulled out a lot.
In any case I have been in a few and find them to be a waste of time for anyone serious about training. I won several 1st and seconds but found that they follow mainly a karate rules focus, actually telling me that they would not pay my strikes unless I used a karate strike and a kia, I kid you not.
Another funny thing that I found in their tournaments was that if a person kicked you as they fell over they got a point even though obviously their strike is pretty useless while I%26#039;m throwing them to the floor.
But at the end of the day it is a tournament for kids to have some fun dude, the adults that compete are usually pretty lame, def not a good representation of a real fight, points sparring is stupid in itself (just a glorified game of tag) and the continuous never works without contact because people just ignore the attacks eg walk through a side kick to the stomach.
If you%26#039;re just looking for something to do on the weekend and maybe trying to get some trophies for your teacher to put up at the school to impress prospective students then go for it. If you%26#039;re looking for something more than that you%26#039;re probably wasting your time. Good luck either way man, maybe they are for you I just found it pretty borring.
Australian Martial arts NAS?
The NAS was dominated by GKR Karate schools. With most of the rules writen in a way that it favoured their style.
To my knowledge the rules have been slowly changing to encourage different styles to enter and as a result GKR has pulled out a lot.
In any case I have been in a few and find them to be a waste of time for anyone serious about training. I won several 1st and seconds but found that they follow mainly a karate rules focus, actually telling me that they would not pay my strikes unless I used a karate strike and a kia, I kid you not.
Another funny thing that I found in their tournaments was that if a person kicked you as they fell over they got a point even though obviously their strike is pretty useless while I%26#039;m throwing them to the floor.
But at the end of the day it is a tournament for kids to have some fun dude, the adults that compete are usually pretty lame, def not a good representation of a real fight, points sparring is stupid in itself (just a glorified game of tag) and the continuous never works without contact because people just ignore the attacks eg walk through a side kick to the stomach.
If you%26#039;re just looking for something to do on the weekend and maybe trying to get some trophies for your teacher to put up at the school to impress prospective students then go for it. If you%26#039;re looking for something more than that you%26#039;re probably wasting your time. Good luck either way man, maybe they are for you I just found it pretty borring.
What are the best martial arts shoes?
I was a climber for years. The shoes you wear for this activity are very tight, and you get minimal %26#039;slippage%26#039; within the shoe. As a result of falling thousands of times, while climbing, I have to really watch my ankles/feet/knees. My practice could really benefit from some quality footwear (minimal slippage). I practice primarily internal arts (I rarely get %26#039;froggy%26#039;). It would be ideal if my practice shoes would be usable in everyday activities (walking, work, etc.). I am not concerned with %26#039;style%26#039;, just practical function.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks.
What are the best martial arts shoes?
None, ALOT of martial artists practice barefoot, if your bare feet are strong, with shoes they will be even stronger!
good luck!
Reply:http://cgi.ebay.com/Chinese-Martial-Art-...
%26#039;nuff said
Reply:There are specific shoes made for martial arts, and many pracitioners practice barefoot, but I prefer Running Sneakers. These give me the right support, and are light enough to throw quick kicks. Also, I wear similar shoes around, so you have the practicality of practicing in what you might use in a real life situation.
Reply:New Balance running shoes or crosstrainers.
They work well if you wear shoes when practicing.
Reply:barefoot is often better, but I hear good things about kung fu slippers
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks.
What are the best martial arts shoes?
None, ALOT of martial artists practice barefoot, if your bare feet are strong, with shoes they will be even stronger!
good luck!
Reply:http://cgi.ebay.com/Chinese-Martial-Art-...
%26#039;nuff said
Reply:There are specific shoes made for martial arts, and many pracitioners practice barefoot, but I prefer Running Sneakers. These give me the right support, and are light enough to throw quick kicks. Also, I wear similar shoes around, so you have the practicality of practicing in what you might use in a real life situation.
Reply:New Balance running shoes or crosstrainers.
They work well if you wear shoes when practicing.
Reply:barefoot is often better, but I hear good things about kung fu slippers
Why do people think martial arts is answer to everything?
We already have people ask about animation, how to heal a serious inury, how to do gymnastic, how to beat video games, how to raise a child, how to sneak around, etc...
What%26#039;s next? How to cook noodle, What brand of condom they should wear, how to cheat on their high school exam?
Why do people think martial artists are some kind of alien or superior being? Isn%26#039;t anyone getting tired of this?
Oh and yes I know the regulars here are SICK of %26quot;which style is best%26quot; and any stealth assassin wannabe related question.
Why do people think martial arts is answer to everything?
Perhaps because violence holds a lot of answers?
Reply:maybe because some martial artists,especially the ones under 30 years old do know everything.they have more life experience than any one else,theyv%26#039;e been everywhere,done everything,beaten everybody and will remain undefeatable forever.and they are always right and everyone else is wrong.cause hey what would anyone with experience know?we hav%26#039;nt experienced anything wev%26#039;e sat around with our head up our *** waiting for the real know alls to teach us everything about everything and anything.
Reply:Hmm...two things come to mind here, bear with me...
--Martial arts, or more specifically fighting, doesn%26#039;t solve everything, or even most things....but the few problems it does solve, they tend to be the ones that are *only* solvable with a *controlled* and thoughtful application of surgical violence. Not so much that everyone gets wiped out, but just *enough* to end a bad situation. To keep, for example, your stoner uncle Bob from trashing the place and everyone in it *without* shooting him. Or to let people walk home safely at night without having to resort to gang warfare tactics....
In short. Knowing how to fight is a needed thing. Still.
I%26#039;d be willing to bet that hunters and mountain climbers get much the same sort of thing from people. They have skills that are uncommon, but are also highly useful, and lots of people *wish* they had those skills even if they don%26#039;t want to do the work to get them. It%26#039;s an admiration thing disguised as envy....or vice versa. ;)
--The other thing that occurs to me is this: I%26#039;m an old fart. I can recall that, back when I was a kid, I had aunts and uncles who used to *brag about graduating*....from the 8th Grade.
Yes, this was in some rural parts of the American south, where up until the mid-1970s or so many schools actually *gave out* Diplomas to 8th graders for making it so far....
And now, having a High School Diploma hardly means anything, does it? It isn%26#039;t even a guarantee that you can still read or write or even do functional maths like balancing a checkbook.
In many ways, having a Black Belt or Black Sash rank in an Asian style martial art here in the States is just that bad, if not worse. If I recall my older sister%26#039;s karate experience correctly and also what I%26#039;ve seen up close and personal of schools myself, lots of people *hype up* the First Degree Black Belt rank, saying it takes *years and years* of refinement and skill to get.
Hogwash. All your First Degree Black Belt means is that you are an Officially Dedicated Student. It%26#039;s like getting a %26quot;Star%26quot; on your Report Card in the 3rd grade for Perfect Attendance--it%26#039;s nifty but it doesn%26#039;t change your being in the *Third Grade* at the time. Lots of folks in the States freak out when they see young kids with Black Belts, and assume the school must be crap...
But from what little I%26#039;ve seen and researched, this happens all the time in Japan, China, and elsewhere in the world. Hell, aren%26#039;t *judo and kendo* part of the Physical Education system still in Japan%26#039;s Public Schools? Ok then. And where does the whole business of the %26quot;Black Belt%26quot; come from? Exactly.
1st Dan just means you are *beginning* to get serious about your training. It is a sign that you%26#039;ve stuck around and are likely to stick around. It%26#039;s an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot;, something nifty to have, but you still have to graduate from %26quot;High School, maybe some College%26quot; in order to really make it count. So to speak.
But here in these United States, we%26#039;ve mistakenly hyped it up to *mean more than that*. And so literally *any* Joe Shmo with the functional equivalent of an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot; ends up getting the same respect that is normally due only to a serious master.
Which I guess might be good for ettiquette....if this didn%26#039;t damage reputations all around once the %26quot;serious beginners%26quot; started believing their own hype. Really.
I hope this helped. :) Thanks for your time! Edit: And my apologies for posting so late at night and being so prone to verbal overkill here, I hope trimming the Answer down helps some.
Reply:a misconception methinks
Reply:You mean Martial Arts ISN%26#039;T the answer to everything? You mean that we%26#039;re NOT superior beings? How can you say such things?
Seriously, you are right. I have seen some very strange questions here. Why people think those questions belong in Martial Arts I will never understand. Humans are highly illogical.
Those questions are far less annoying to me than the Ninja %26amp; %26quot;best art%26quot; questions. I usually deal with them by either ignoring them or making some smart a$$ comments.
Reply:Because the average intelligence is dropping day by day. Soon the human race will be reduced to grunting again instead of speech.
Reply:Good question , heres my answer . People have mysticized the martial arts , making it into some strange paranormal activity . People see old kung fu movies ,some of which are loosely based on legends , and think the blind flying monk that shoots lightning from his fingers is real . Other people may know that its not real but want to believe in it anyway , they seem to enjoy the thought of taking part in something %26quot;magical%26quot; . There are also the misinformed, they have been told lies by their instructors .
I know its tiring to see %26quot;which style is best%26quot; or %26quot;who would beat who%26quot; questions . We don%26#039;t have to answer them though .
As for how to cook noodles , that belongs in a different catagory .LOL
Reply:I think the video game ones are to be a joke , the gymnastics i can find legitimate. There is no gymnastics catagory on here and it is more likely for a martial artists to cross train in gymnastics than a boxer or someone playing pool.
You also have jackie chan, who i don%26#039;t know if he knows martial arts, i know he%26#039;s a gymnist....and the martial arts competitions on espn where most of the people doing forms are doing some crazy acrobatics. There is probably an image that all martial artists know gymnastics.
The healing stuff could be a little out there, but you have that stuff in movies. My instructor is a 5th dan and he%26#039;s shown me some pressure points that temporarly relieve cold symptoms.
I%26#039;d think a lot of people think that most martial artists here are or have an instructor that is traditional chinesse and knows herbal healing.
Thats a differnet topic on herbal / eastern medicine%26#039;s legitimacy.
I completely disagree with you on the ninja stuff though. I don%26#039;t know about you but I personally have been trying to learn magic for a while now and anywhere i can find help would be appreciated * :-) *
***
thought of this while on the toilet a minute ago
People might be bringing general questions to a martial arts community rather than wanting a martial arts questions answered
For instance...If i wanted to know people%26#039;s views on alcohol.
I might post that here instead of the health section. The health issues are all straight forward. Few of my instructors have been sober for years.... so i might want to know what other martial artists think rather than the general public. If i took this to a night life sort of board, i%26#039;d get a very different answer.
Reply:Because fighting solves everything.
Reply:Damn some long *** answers for ya nindemons lol.
Think about it dude, it%26#039;s the internet! You and I both know that the vast majority of people asking questions on here are in middle school, or high school at the most lol, 50 percent are trolls, and the 50 percent just don%26#039;t know any better.
But I know you are just venting and not seeking some divine inspiration such as what Bradley put above... jeez Brad, I thought I wrote books for answers, you must work in Government too...
I%26#039;m off to answer some questions about ninjas, real life fighting using Aikido, what works best on the street, and how to win a school yard fight, somehow has to tell these kids not to go eye gouging and vein ripping each other lol...
Reply:Well I would agree with you except for the fact that yesterday I tried really hard to harness my %26quot;cheese%26quot; and started to float!!! it was amazing. I also meditated for 6 years of my life... STRAIGHT and can now see through womens clothing.... so there are benefits to being a martial arts alien.... for serious!
Reply:they might find peace and joy in the martial arts
Reply:I%26#039;ll go backwards in order of ranting. Yes, i believe i answered the first three %26quot;which style is the best%26quot; and completely ignored any stealth wannabe assasin question. Pretty retarded, it%26#039;s like asking soccer over baseball, what would you rather do more for christ%26#039;s sake? It%26#039;s all a matter of personal preference and what you want martial arts for.
The true original martial arts came from asia, specifics are not required, few people actually care anymore. But there is something wild and crazy apparently about a small five foot man beating up a much larger and supposedly stronger man. It%26#039;s like saying a short man can%26#039;t shoot a basketball as well as a tall man. I know this one short little bastard that can get the ball in the hoop from half court almost every time, i miss about half the time from the three point line. Hmm, i think there was a point to that basketball analogy, but i am not going to re-read it now.
Most noodles aren%26#039;t that hard to cook, spaghetti for example, when it is done it will stick to a non-stuccoed ceiling. try the wall though, easier to reach. But in all actuallity in budo, in between learning new ways to remove a mans jaw with nearly no effort, i learned how to make sushi. Martial artists are kind of strange that way. Condoms are also a choice of preference, picking your martial art should be like choosing your condom. what do you want out of your training/******* experience? lots of frills? or all practicallity? the only problem is it%26#039;s easier to find a completely practical condom nowadays than a completely practial martial art, of course go back two hundred years and you had the completely opposite problem. Cheating is bad.
Well, for most of those things, a true martial artist is only good at it because of his mindset...anyone can have that mindset, i just think that a lot of martial artists are associated with that mindset. I disagree, most of the other martial artists i have came across are arrogant stuck up pricks. Finding a real martial artist is rare, damn humble bastards just don%26#039;t stick out as much as they should.
I have no idea why people would think martial arts is the answer to everything, i havn%26#039;t actually heard this theory before. I think that pingpong is a fairly good response though.
Reply:This is probably one of the most enjoyable treads i have read here. I must agree with most of you here to some degree or another. In my opinion Martial Arts do offer a lot of answers in life to the real practitioners. For me the Martial Arts is a way of life and as such it rules all my decisions in my life. What i mean is that I try to live my life according to a set of values. i try to be a better person everyday because that is what being a Martial Artist is all about.
That why probably people think we have all the solutions. LOL
I will summarize it like this:
I always tell my students this: we, as martial artist are judge and seen different than anybody else. We are held to a higher stardard. If you see any other Joe blow commiting a crime or doing something stupid people dont think much about it. But if in the other hand you see a martial Arts Instructor commiting the same crime then you get outrage. So you are seen different, you are held to a higher stardard. So it is our responsibility as martial artist to be that stardard, to be that role model. Live as a Martial Artist.
I guess that is what people expect and why people think we have the answers. To all of you here thank you for taking your time to help others. Dont get frustrated. You dont have to answer if you dont want to. Nobody makes you answer. Keep training and lets all become that standard. We are the role models, we are helping create a better future. good luck
Reply:Cheese! I was reading this at work (shame on me) and burst out laughing out loud. From Qi to cheese. (wiping away a tear). Good cheese to you, too. (I am partial to Brie, if you send any). Is Acheesedo a new type of snack food? (I know it is Ki, but I couldn%26#039;t resist).
Oh, by the way, the ultimate answer is 42. Everybody knows that.
Reply:because your a dumb bizzch and u dumb azz muzxtherzzfuckerzz shut the fzzk up you stupid czznt, before i bust out and woop on you r dumb azz
pomegranate
What%26#039;s next? How to cook noodle, What brand of condom they should wear, how to cheat on their high school exam?
Why do people think martial artists are some kind of alien or superior being? Isn%26#039;t anyone getting tired of this?
Oh and yes I know the regulars here are SICK of %26quot;which style is best%26quot; and any stealth assassin wannabe related question.
Why do people think martial arts is answer to everything?
Perhaps because violence holds a lot of answers?
Reply:maybe because some martial artists,especially the ones under 30 years old do know everything.they have more life experience than any one else,theyv%26#039;e been everywhere,done everything,beaten everybody and will remain undefeatable forever.and they are always right and everyone else is wrong.cause hey what would anyone with experience know?we hav%26#039;nt experienced anything wev%26#039;e sat around with our head up our *** waiting for the real know alls to teach us everything about everything and anything.
Reply:Hmm...two things come to mind here, bear with me...
--Martial arts, or more specifically fighting, doesn%26#039;t solve everything, or even most things....but the few problems it does solve, they tend to be the ones that are *only* solvable with a *controlled* and thoughtful application of surgical violence. Not so much that everyone gets wiped out, but just *enough* to end a bad situation. To keep, for example, your stoner uncle Bob from trashing the place and everyone in it *without* shooting him. Or to let people walk home safely at night without having to resort to gang warfare tactics....
In short. Knowing how to fight is a needed thing. Still.
I%26#039;d be willing to bet that hunters and mountain climbers get much the same sort of thing from people. They have skills that are uncommon, but are also highly useful, and lots of people *wish* they had those skills even if they don%26#039;t want to do the work to get them. It%26#039;s an admiration thing disguised as envy....or vice versa. ;)
--The other thing that occurs to me is this: I%26#039;m an old fart. I can recall that, back when I was a kid, I had aunts and uncles who used to *brag about graduating*....from the 8th Grade.
Yes, this was in some rural parts of the American south, where up until the mid-1970s or so many schools actually *gave out* Diplomas to 8th graders for making it so far....
And now, having a High School Diploma hardly means anything, does it? It isn%26#039;t even a guarantee that you can still read or write or even do functional maths like balancing a checkbook.
In many ways, having a Black Belt or Black Sash rank in an Asian style martial art here in the States is just that bad, if not worse. If I recall my older sister%26#039;s karate experience correctly and also what I%26#039;ve seen up close and personal of schools myself, lots of people *hype up* the First Degree Black Belt rank, saying it takes *years and years* of refinement and skill to get.
Hogwash. All your First Degree Black Belt means is that you are an Officially Dedicated Student. It%26#039;s like getting a %26quot;Star%26quot; on your Report Card in the 3rd grade for Perfect Attendance--it%26#039;s nifty but it doesn%26#039;t change your being in the *Third Grade* at the time. Lots of folks in the States freak out when they see young kids with Black Belts, and assume the school must be crap...
But from what little I%26#039;ve seen and researched, this happens all the time in Japan, China, and elsewhere in the world. Hell, aren%26#039;t *judo and kendo* part of the Physical Education system still in Japan%26#039;s Public Schools? Ok then. And where does the whole business of the %26quot;Black Belt%26quot; come from? Exactly.
1st Dan just means you are *beginning* to get serious about your training. It is a sign that you%26#039;ve stuck around and are likely to stick around. It%26#039;s an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot;, something nifty to have, but you still have to graduate from %26quot;High School, maybe some College%26quot; in order to really make it count. So to speak.
But here in these United States, we%26#039;ve mistakenly hyped it up to *mean more than that*. And so literally *any* Joe Shmo with the functional equivalent of an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot; ends up getting the same respect that is normally due only to a serious master.
Which I guess might be good for ettiquette....if this didn%26#039;t damage reputations all around once the %26quot;serious beginners%26quot; started believing their own hype. Really.
I hope this helped. :) Thanks for your time! Edit: And my apologies for posting so late at night and being so prone to verbal overkill here, I hope trimming the Answer down helps some.
Reply:a misconception methinks
Reply:You mean Martial Arts ISN%26#039;T the answer to everything? You mean that we%26#039;re NOT superior beings? How can you say such things?
Seriously, you are right. I have seen some very strange questions here. Why people think those questions belong in Martial Arts I will never understand. Humans are highly illogical.
Those questions are far less annoying to me than the Ninja %26amp; %26quot;best art%26quot; questions. I usually deal with them by either ignoring them or making some smart a$$ comments.
Reply:Because the average intelligence is dropping day by day. Soon the human race will be reduced to grunting again instead of speech.
Reply:Good question , heres my answer . People have mysticized the martial arts , making it into some strange paranormal activity . People see old kung fu movies ,some of which are loosely based on legends , and think the blind flying monk that shoots lightning from his fingers is real . Other people may know that its not real but want to believe in it anyway , they seem to enjoy the thought of taking part in something %26quot;magical%26quot; . There are also the misinformed, they have been told lies by their instructors .
I know its tiring to see %26quot;which style is best%26quot; or %26quot;who would beat who%26quot; questions . We don%26#039;t have to answer them though .
As for how to cook noodles , that belongs in a different catagory .LOL
Reply:I think the video game ones are to be a joke , the gymnastics i can find legitimate. There is no gymnastics catagory on here and it is more likely for a martial artists to cross train in gymnastics than a boxer or someone playing pool.
You also have jackie chan, who i don%26#039;t know if he knows martial arts, i know he%26#039;s a gymnist....and the martial arts competitions on espn where most of the people doing forms are doing some crazy acrobatics. There is probably an image that all martial artists know gymnastics.
The healing stuff could be a little out there, but you have that stuff in movies. My instructor is a 5th dan and he%26#039;s shown me some pressure points that temporarly relieve cold symptoms.
I%26#039;d think a lot of people think that most martial artists here are or have an instructor that is traditional chinesse and knows herbal healing.
Thats a differnet topic on herbal / eastern medicine%26#039;s legitimacy.
I completely disagree with you on the ninja stuff though. I don%26#039;t know about you but I personally have been trying to learn magic for a while now and anywhere i can find help would be appreciated * :-) *
***
thought of this while on the toilet a minute ago
People might be bringing general questions to a martial arts community rather than wanting a martial arts questions answered
For instance...If i wanted to know people%26#039;s views on alcohol.
I might post that here instead of the health section. The health issues are all straight forward. Few of my instructors have been sober for years.... so i might want to know what other martial artists think rather than the general public. If i took this to a night life sort of board, i%26#039;d get a very different answer.
Reply:Because fighting solves everything.
Reply:Damn some long *** answers for ya nindemons lol.
Think about it dude, it%26#039;s the internet! You and I both know that the vast majority of people asking questions on here are in middle school, or high school at the most lol, 50 percent are trolls, and the 50 percent just don%26#039;t know any better.
But I know you are just venting and not seeking some divine inspiration such as what Bradley put above... jeez Brad, I thought I wrote books for answers, you must work in Government too...
I%26#039;m off to answer some questions about ninjas, real life fighting using Aikido, what works best on the street, and how to win a school yard fight, somehow has to tell these kids not to go eye gouging and vein ripping each other lol...
Reply:Well I would agree with you except for the fact that yesterday I tried really hard to harness my %26quot;cheese%26quot; and started to float!!! it was amazing. I also meditated for 6 years of my life... STRAIGHT and can now see through womens clothing.... so there are benefits to being a martial arts alien.... for serious!
Reply:they might find peace and joy in the martial arts
Reply:I%26#039;ll go backwards in order of ranting. Yes, i believe i answered the first three %26quot;which style is the best%26quot; and completely ignored any stealth wannabe assasin question. Pretty retarded, it%26#039;s like asking soccer over baseball, what would you rather do more for christ%26#039;s sake? It%26#039;s all a matter of personal preference and what you want martial arts for.
The true original martial arts came from asia, specifics are not required, few people actually care anymore. But there is something wild and crazy apparently about a small five foot man beating up a much larger and supposedly stronger man. It%26#039;s like saying a short man can%26#039;t shoot a basketball as well as a tall man. I know this one short little bastard that can get the ball in the hoop from half court almost every time, i miss about half the time from the three point line. Hmm, i think there was a point to that basketball analogy, but i am not going to re-read it now.
Most noodles aren%26#039;t that hard to cook, spaghetti for example, when it is done it will stick to a non-stuccoed ceiling. try the wall though, easier to reach. But in all actuallity in budo, in between learning new ways to remove a mans jaw with nearly no effort, i learned how to make sushi. Martial artists are kind of strange that way. Condoms are also a choice of preference, picking your martial art should be like choosing your condom. what do you want out of your training/******* experience? lots of frills? or all practicallity? the only problem is it%26#039;s easier to find a completely practical condom nowadays than a completely practial martial art, of course go back two hundred years and you had the completely opposite problem. Cheating is bad.
Well, for most of those things, a true martial artist is only good at it because of his mindset...anyone can have that mindset, i just think that a lot of martial artists are associated with that mindset. I disagree, most of the other martial artists i have came across are arrogant stuck up pricks. Finding a real martial artist is rare, damn humble bastards just don%26#039;t stick out as much as they should.
I have no idea why people would think martial arts is the answer to everything, i havn%26#039;t actually heard this theory before. I think that pingpong is a fairly good response though.
Reply:This is probably one of the most enjoyable treads i have read here. I must agree with most of you here to some degree or another. In my opinion Martial Arts do offer a lot of answers in life to the real practitioners. For me the Martial Arts is a way of life and as such it rules all my decisions in my life. What i mean is that I try to live my life according to a set of values. i try to be a better person everyday because that is what being a Martial Artist is all about.
That why probably people think we have all the solutions. LOL
I will summarize it like this:
I always tell my students this: we, as martial artist are judge and seen different than anybody else. We are held to a higher stardard. If you see any other Joe blow commiting a crime or doing something stupid people dont think much about it. But if in the other hand you see a martial Arts Instructor commiting the same crime then you get outrage. So you are seen different, you are held to a higher stardard. So it is our responsibility as martial artist to be that stardard, to be that role model. Live as a Martial Artist.
I guess that is what people expect and why people think we have the answers. To all of you here thank you for taking your time to help others. Dont get frustrated. You dont have to answer if you dont want to. Nobody makes you answer. Keep training and lets all become that standard. We are the role models, we are helping create a better future. good luck
Reply:Cheese! I was reading this at work (shame on me) and burst out laughing out loud. From Qi to cheese. (wiping away a tear). Good cheese to you, too. (I am partial to Brie, if you send any). Is Acheesedo a new type of snack food? (I know it is Ki, but I couldn%26#039;t resist).
Oh, by the way, the ultimate answer is 42. Everybody knows that.
Reply:because your a dumb bizzch and u dumb azz muzxtherzzfuckerzz shut the fzzk up you stupid czznt, before i bust out and woop on you r dumb azz
pomegranate
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