Sunday, April 26, 2009

Why do people think martial arts is answer to everything?

We already have people ask about animation, how to heal a serious inury, how to do gymnastic, how to beat video games, how to raise a child, how to sneak around, etc...





What%26#039;s next? How to cook noodle, What brand of condom they should wear, how to cheat on their high school exam?





Why do people think martial artists are some kind of alien or superior being? Isn%26#039;t anyone getting tired of this?





Oh and yes I know the regulars here are SICK of %26quot;which style is best%26quot; and any stealth assassin wannabe related question.

Why do people think martial arts is answer to everything?
Perhaps because violence holds a lot of answers?
Reply:maybe because some martial artists,especially the ones under 30 years old do know everything.they have more life experience than any one else,theyv%26#039;e been everywhere,done everything,beaten everybody and will remain undefeatable forever.and they are always right and everyone else is wrong.cause hey what would anyone with experience know?we hav%26#039;nt experienced anything wev%26#039;e sat around with our head up our *** waiting for the real know alls to teach us everything about everything and anything.
Reply:Hmm...two things come to mind here, bear with me...





--Martial arts, or more specifically fighting, doesn%26#039;t solve everything, or even most things....but the few problems it does solve, they tend to be the ones that are *only* solvable with a *controlled* and thoughtful application of surgical violence. Not so much that everyone gets wiped out, but just *enough* to end a bad situation. To keep, for example, your stoner uncle Bob from trashing the place and everyone in it *without* shooting him. Or to let people walk home safely at night without having to resort to gang warfare tactics....





In short. Knowing how to fight is a needed thing. Still.





I%26#039;d be willing to bet that hunters and mountain climbers get much the same sort of thing from people. They have skills that are uncommon, but are also highly useful, and lots of people *wish* they had those skills even if they don%26#039;t want to do the work to get them. It%26#039;s an admiration thing disguised as envy....or vice versa. ;)





--The other thing that occurs to me is this: I%26#039;m an old fart. I can recall that, back when I was a kid, I had aunts and uncles who used to *brag about graduating*....from the 8th Grade.





Yes, this was in some rural parts of the American south, where up until the mid-1970s or so many schools actually *gave out* Diplomas to 8th graders for making it so far....





And now, having a High School Diploma hardly means anything, does it? It isn%26#039;t even a guarantee that you can still read or write or even do functional maths like balancing a checkbook.





In many ways, having a Black Belt or Black Sash rank in an Asian style martial art here in the States is just that bad, if not worse. If I recall my older sister%26#039;s karate experience correctly and also what I%26#039;ve seen up close and personal of schools myself, lots of people *hype up* the First Degree Black Belt rank, saying it takes *years and years* of refinement and skill to get.





Hogwash. All your First Degree Black Belt means is that you are an Officially Dedicated Student. It%26#039;s like getting a %26quot;Star%26quot; on your Report Card in the 3rd grade for Perfect Attendance--it%26#039;s nifty but it doesn%26#039;t change your being in the *Third Grade* at the time. Lots of folks in the States freak out when they see young kids with Black Belts, and assume the school must be crap...





But from what little I%26#039;ve seen and researched, this happens all the time in Japan, China, and elsewhere in the world. Hell, aren%26#039;t *judo and kendo* part of the Physical Education system still in Japan%26#039;s Public Schools? Ok then. And where does the whole business of the %26quot;Black Belt%26quot; come from? Exactly.





1st Dan just means you are *beginning* to get serious about your training. It is a sign that you%26#039;ve stuck around and are likely to stick around. It%26#039;s an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot;, something nifty to have, but you still have to graduate from %26quot;High School, maybe some College%26quot; in order to really make it count. So to speak.





But here in these United States, we%26#039;ve mistakenly hyped it up to *mean more than that*. And so literally *any* Joe Shmo with the functional equivalent of an %26quot;8th Grade Diploma%26quot; ends up getting the same respect that is normally due only to a serious master.





Which I guess might be good for ettiquette....if this didn%26#039;t damage reputations all around once the %26quot;serious beginners%26quot; started believing their own hype. Really.





I hope this helped. :) Thanks for your time! Edit: And my apologies for posting so late at night and being so prone to verbal overkill here, I hope trimming the Answer down helps some.
Reply:a misconception methinks
Reply:You mean Martial Arts ISN%26#039;T the answer to everything? You mean that we%26#039;re NOT superior beings? How can you say such things?





Seriously, you are right. I have seen some very strange questions here. Why people think those questions belong in Martial Arts I will never understand. Humans are highly illogical.





Those questions are far less annoying to me than the Ninja %26amp; %26quot;best art%26quot; questions. I usually deal with them by either ignoring them or making some smart a$$ comments.
Reply:Because the average intelligence is dropping day by day. Soon the human race will be reduced to grunting again instead of speech.
Reply:Good question , heres my answer . People have mysticized the martial arts , making it into some strange paranormal activity . People see old kung fu movies ,some of which are loosely based on legends , and think the blind flying monk that shoots lightning from his fingers is real . Other people may know that its not real but want to believe in it anyway , they seem to enjoy the thought of taking part in something %26quot;magical%26quot; . There are also the misinformed, they have been told lies by their instructors .





I know its tiring to see %26quot;which style is best%26quot; or %26quot;who would beat who%26quot; questions . We don%26#039;t have to answer them though .





As for how to cook noodles , that belongs in a different catagory .LOL
Reply:I think the video game ones are to be a joke , the gymnastics i can find legitimate. There is no gymnastics catagory on here and it is more likely for a martial artists to cross train in gymnastics than a boxer or someone playing pool.





You also have jackie chan, who i don%26#039;t know if he knows martial arts, i know he%26#039;s a gymnist....and the martial arts competitions on espn where most of the people doing forms are doing some crazy acrobatics. There is probably an image that all martial artists know gymnastics.





The healing stuff could be a little out there, but you have that stuff in movies. My instructor is a 5th dan and he%26#039;s shown me some pressure points that temporarly relieve cold symptoms.





I%26#039;d think a lot of people think that most martial artists here are or have an instructor that is traditional chinesse and knows herbal healing.





Thats a differnet topic on herbal / eastern medicine%26#039;s legitimacy.








I completely disagree with you on the ninja stuff though. I don%26#039;t know about you but I personally have been trying to learn magic for a while now and anywhere i can find help would be appreciated * :-) *





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thought of this while on the toilet a minute ago





People might be bringing general questions to a martial arts community rather than wanting a martial arts questions answered





For instance...If i wanted to know people%26#039;s views on alcohol.


I might post that here instead of the health section. The health issues are all straight forward. Few of my instructors have been sober for years.... so i might want to know what other martial artists think rather than the general public. If i took this to a night life sort of board, i%26#039;d get a very different answer.
Reply:Because fighting solves everything.
Reply:Damn some long *** answers for ya nindemons lol.





Think about it dude, it%26#039;s the internet! You and I both know that the vast majority of people asking questions on here are in middle school, or high school at the most lol, 50 percent are trolls, and the 50 percent just don%26#039;t know any better.





But I know you are just venting and not seeking some divine inspiration such as what Bradley put above... jeez Brad, I thought I wrote books for answers, you must work in Government too...





I%26#039;m off to answer some questions about ninjas, real life fighting using Aikido, what works best on the street, and how to win a school yard fight, somehow has to tell these kids not to go eye gouging and vein ripping each other lol...
Reply:Well I would agree with you except for the fact that yesterday I tried really hard to harness my %26quot;cheese%26quot; and started to float!!! it was amazing. I also meditated for 6 years of my life... STRAIGHT and can now see through womens clothing.... so there are benefits to being a martial arts alien.... for serious!
Reply:they might find peace and joy in the martial arts
Reply:I%26#039;ll go backwards in order of ranting. Yes, i believe i answered the first three %26quot;which style is the best%26quot; and completely ignored any stealth wannabe assasin question. Pretty retarded, it%26#039;s like asking soccer over baseball, what would you rather do more for christ%26#039;s sake? It%26#039;s all a matter of personal preference and what you want martial arts for.





The true original martial arts came from asia, specifics are not required, few people actually care anymore. But there is something wild and crazy apparently about a small five foot man beating up a much larger and supposedly stronger man. It%26#039;s like saying a short man can%26#039;t shoot a basketball as well as a tall man. I know this one short little bastard that can get the ball in the hoop from half court almost every time, i miss about half the time from the three point line. Hmm, i think there was a point to that basketball analogy, but i am not going to re-read it now.





Most noodles aren%26#039;t that hard to cook, spaghetti for example, when it is done it will stick to a non-stuccoed ceiling. try the wall though, easier to reach. But in all actuallity in budo, in between learning new ways to remove a mans jaw with nearly no effort, i learned how to make sushi. Martial artists are kind of strange that way. Condoms are also a choice of preference, picking your martial art should be like choosing your condom. what do you want out of your training/******* experience? lots of frills? or all practicallity? the only problem is it%26#039;s easier to find a completely practical condom nowadays than a completely practial martial art, of course go back two hundred years and you had the completely opposite problem. Cheating is bad.





Well, for most of those things, a true martial artist is only good at it because of his mindset...anyone can have that mindset, i just think that a lot of martial artists are associated with that mindset. I disagree, most of the other martial artists i have came across are arrogant stuck up pricks. Finding a real martial artist is rare, damn humble bastards just don%26#039;t stick out as much as they should.





I have no idea why people would think martial arts is the answer to everything, i havn%26#039;t actually heard this theory before. I think that pingpong is a fairly good response though.
Reply:This is probably one of the most enjoyable treads i have read here. I must agree with most of you here to some degree or another. In my opinion Martial Arts do offer a lot of answers in life to the real practitioners. For me the Martial Arts is a way of life and as such it rules all my decisions in my life. What i mean is that I try to live my life according to a set of values. i try to be a better person everyday because that is what being a Martial Artist is all about.


That why probably people think we have all the solutions. LOL





I will summarize it like this:





I always tell my students this: we, as martial artist are judge and seen different than anybody else. We are held to a higher stardard. If you see any other Joe blow commiting a crime or doing something stupid people dont think much about it. But if in the other hand you see a martial Arts Instructor commiting the same crime then you get outrage. So you are seen different, you are held to a higher stardard. So it is our responsibility as martial artist to be that stardard, to be that role model. Live as a Martial Artist.





I guess that is what people expect and why people think we have the answers. To all of you here thank you for taking your time to help others. Dont get frustrated. You dont have to answer if you dont want to. Nobody makes you answer. Keep training and lets all become that standard. We are the role models, we are helping create a better future. good luck
Reply:Cheese! I was reading this at work (shame on me) and burst out laughing out loud. From Qi to cheese. (wiping away a tear). Good cheese to you, too. (I am partial to Brie, if you send any). Is Acheesedo a new type of snack food? (I know it is Ki, but I couldn%26#039;t resist).





Oh, by the way, the ultimate answer is 42. Everybody knows that.
Reply:because your a dumb bizzch and u dumb azz muzxtherzzfuckerzz shut the fzzk up you stupid czznt, before i bust out and woop on you r dumb azz

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