there are millions, and am not sure which one to go for !! i need something which not only allows me to avoid being hit but to be able to cause damage aswell (dont want those b*****s to get away with it)!!
here is some of the ones that i found :
Wing chum
Taekwondo
Kick boxing
Karate
Free style karate
Jujutsu (go-shin-ryu jujitsu)
Brazilian Jiu jutsu
Shaolin kung fu
Wushu
Judo
Jeet kun do
Tai Chi Chan
Tai chi
Ninjutsu
Choi kwang Do (American karate)
Dragon-tiger shu Hapkido
Aikido
Whu-Hit-Chu
Kenpo Karate
Brazilian Kung Fu (Capoeira)
Cobra Kai
Krav Maga
Wrestling
Chi na
Shotokon
Boxing
Thanks in advance for the help ;)
[if u can also say why did u make a particular chioce]
Which martial arts is best for defence in case of street group attack by trouble makers?
What kind of fairy tale world are 27 of you living in?
Sheesh!
First off, if all those Martial Arts are available to you, then that is awesome!
Let me run this disclaimer for you, forget all these other pretenders here. No one art is going to help you in a group attack. No two or three arts is going to help you take out 3 guys, (except sheer luck). There are things that can help the very narrow odds move slightly in your favor, but mostly it will end up with you on the ground getting kicked period.
Forget all this wind pipe crushing, eye gouging. knee blasting, groin squeezing BS. 80 percent of it is horse sh*t. The other 20 percent requires a certain degree of luck, and utter stupidity on the attackers part.
Your best odds, are the you are able to really mess one of them up while receiving an asswhupping. (Aside from carrying a weapon) Maybe you can do well enough to actually haul *** and outrun them or at least get to safety. So instead of giving you some fairy tale BS theory, I will tell you how it is.
Carry a weapon, be prepared and accustomed to it%26#039;s use.
You can take any Martial Art with the proper training at a good school that will help you in how to deal with one guy.
Here is a long read but a good guide:
http://www.bullshido.com/articles/findin...
And of your list here is a small breakdown of what I think you should avoid and why.
Tai Chi: Not a combat art, and will not really help you. Except for learning how to relax when they are stomping on your face, and probably help you to breathe while removing that boot from your @ss.
Ninjitsu: Despite what a few fat white asianophiles on here will tell you, it doesn%26#039;t exist. And what was actually real ninjitsu back in the day wasn%26#039;t an art, and wasn%26#039;t a hand to hand type of style. It was methods of espionage, that is it. Don%26#039;t let some fool tell you otherwise, especially one that walks around quoting Hakagure and wears Tabis.
Aikido: Unless you are taking Tomiki Aikido chances are you will gain nothing of TRUE use from Aikido. As you will not spar, and many of the moves are done with a cooperative opponent. Nay, many of the techniques REQUIRE Uke utter cooperation. Also, despite what some believe, small joint manipulation does not work. Most people can easily fight with broken fingers, or a broken wrist, and instead of flinging themselves over, will simply just get a wrist broken. Also, nobody grabs your lapels or wrists in a real fight.
Capoeira: Beautiful, impressive, worthless. The object of the game is to NOT kick each other. And when you get football tackled while dancing, and end up on your back, not much you can do.
Chin Na: this isn%26#039;t an art itself, it is a part of many Kung Fu curriculums, just means trapping and joint manipulation, Great in theory, but if you never spar it, you can%26#039;t really know how to use it.
Any hybrid %26quot;we take the best from this and this%26quot; type of art. No one persons take on a Martial Art is the best, each style varies for individual, so what may have been best for Sensei Ed Parker isn%26#039;t necessarily the best for you and your skills or body type.
Cobra Kai: Well Marc Laimon has a dojo called Cobra Kai, which teaches BJJ and MMA, which is pretty good actually...
Krav Maga: I studied Krav for 6 months in Israel, and taken many Krav seminars here. Unfortunately there are also a ton of fitness trainers who simply did a teaching seminar and teach Krav Maga as fitness and watered down. Real Krav has resistance training, sparring, and many stimuli to enact adrenaline situations. There are a ton of places that do not do it properly, and teach it like Cardio Kickboxing, beware of them.
Essentially if you follow the guide I posted above, any school can be worthwhile as long as it trains with aliveness and resistance. You find that while doing that, many exotic techniques that are part of the art are thrown out, and actually should be. Many forms and techniques were done for fighting in a different era. 80 percent of Jujutsu (Go Shin Ryu) was envisioned to be done while wearing armor.
Again, none of this will help vs. multiple opponents but will help you some.
Go with the MMA route for the best you can do unarmed against another person. All that knee breaking, vein ripping, gross motor stuff sounds great in theory. But without practical application of it over and over against a resisting opponent, you will not have the technique down effectively enough to use it, or have any real idea of it%26#039;s effectiveness or reaction.
Additionally any art in which someone is not hitting you does not prepare you for being hit, or for how to avoid getting hit. The only way to learn how to avoid being hit, is by having some actually try to hit you repeatedly. Not throw a weak *** haymaker not intended to land, but something with actual intentions of hitting you. The air, boards, makiwara, and bags do not count.
So screw all the single answer crap, the real answer is against more than 1 person the only thing that will save your @ss is luck. Read the guide I posted above at the link to help find something that trains effectively. Ultimately it can actually help you out of tight situations but nothing is going to leave you standing with a whole bunch of dudes on the ground screaming in pain. But I take it you know that already, just want to learn how to get your licks in.
Best way is to learn how to deal with one person at a time brutally and effectively. You%26#039;ll still catch an buttkicking, but you%26#039;ll leave one of them something to remember.
Good luck in finding a Martial Art that suits you and a dojo that you love.
Reply:I know what you mean mate. I%26#039;ve had a lot of trouble with local scum, until I started boxing. And let me tell you something, when they%26#039;ve received a whack to the nose they don%26#039;t come back!!
Reply:I trained in Krav Maga since i was 18 yrs .. and it also keep you very fit too..
I learned this art in the IDF ...
Reply:Ah you seem to have left out an injection of female hormones not only do they have the power to stop trains but the female hormone also makes you super intelligent thats why they are always right, if i had a nuclear bomb as protection there are still 4 days of the month when i would not even think about retaliation just not safe
Reply:i would have to say jujitsu because its basically pressure points. u dont need to know fancy kicks to defend yourself. Use simple tactics like in jujitsu. it teaches u how to take guns away and everything. i also take jujitsu. try it. its very fun.
Reply:I%26#039;d go for Muay Thai, it%26#039;s the fastest way to knock out a great number of ppl, delivering lots of powerful blows very fast, you can even use you knees and elbow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai
=====EDIT=====
I thought of a better one: Kendo. It is not a bare-knuckle martial art, you use a katana.
Reply:The best defense is to RUN. If your about to be swarmed, best to take flight, fighting them will only get them upset and your injuries are likely to be more sever, but if you insist on fighting, Akido may be to your advantage as it takes your opponents attacks and counters/re-directs them.
Reply:it doesn%26#039;t matter what style when a group is involved as you ll still get an *** kicking,i always say take 2 throats and run like hell and live to fight another day.......im no coward and dont take stick but i know when to go
Reply:Unlike films, if you%26#039;re attacked by a group of people, they don%26#039;t usually attack one at a time. This means that even if you learned a style as best you could, there%26#039;d be one more person to take you down when you were exhausted. However, Ninjitsu is probably your best bet as it does focus on %26#039;take-down and get away%26#039;.
Alternatively, you could just use the chav style, which involves shouting %26quot;Yeah? Your mum!%26quot; and flailing at people. This is the main style in the UK and only results in bruised egos 60% of the time.
Reply:Check out Wing Chun Do it%26#039;s the quickest, fastest way of defending yourself. Derived from Wing Chun and Bruce Lee%26#039;s corrections in Martial Arts.
We learned it in the Special Tactics group I was in, in the military. I also take Aikido and have studied 12 other martial arts.
Reply:If you can%26#039;t run, get a 9mm pistol and a CCW permit.
Reply:Best thing to do is run.
For any females out there - if you are attacked - dont go for the crown jewels, go for the eyes so that they wont be able to see which direction you run
Reply:typically you gunna want to avoid jujutsu and other ground type fighting , because in a group fight the last place you want to be is on the ground
pretty much any art you get into will teach multi opponent fighting
but the best advice to give is to learn to line them up then take them one at a time
do this by moving away from the crowd then when they come at you theyll get behind one another. it takes practice but adventually a group fight will feel like one on one, just over and over again.
Reply:Cobra Kai
Not that wussy version found in Canada but the one taught by Sensei Kreese.
Reply:All styles of martial arts are effective when use properly, if you train for multiple attackers then your training with automatically take over no matter what style. They all are great each with its own strengths,if you want the best style learn a few styles then make your own from each.remember once you learn a style or fight system over time you will modify it to your liking ie,kicks,punching take downs you will never do a form or fight like the guy you have been training with for 5 years,he fights his way and you yours with your system of fighting as a base
Reply:I personally like a .357 Magnum,it works wonders.Get a speed loader and practice reloading the gun too.You may never need to do so,but who knows?
I chose this because of its effectiveness.I am not going to fight multiple attackers physically if I can help it.
It works against dogs and cars too.
Reply:Any of the styles you listed could save your life in a street fight. What is most important is your mindset. You can a highly trained martial artist but if you can not keep your head and cool in a real life encounter than your training is of no use.
Reply:Don%26#039;t listen to the brainwashing if you have multiple attackers bent on hurting you, you had better run or you are going to get a beat down.
Too many people here have been brainwashed by their schools telling them their art is faster, stronger and can handle situations just like Bruce and Chuck............ and keep the money coming.
I know everyone has a buddy who beat up a couple of guys or so he says and we can all find a video on You Tube of a guy beating up two drunk guys. That is not real world, most everytime multiple attackers means a beating.
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:well hmm this is a hard one if you are getting ganged up best idea is too run away... But if that is impossible there are actually many marital arts to help... But u will get hit no matter which martial arts u take. DO NOT take judo, shaolin kung fu wrestling boxing. These def does not help cmon wrestling and judo is grappling and throwing u get one person down what about the others while u grapple the person? thats why u want a martial arts thats hit and get away or hit powerfully to keep them down. TKD is a very good idea and so is Kenpo
Reply:Any experienced martial artist will tell you, the best form of self defence is BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Real life is not like the movies, it dosn%26#039;t matter how good you are in the Dojo, against a (probably armed) gang injury or death is a serious risk.
In answer to your question Ju-Jitsu is a good place to start as it is effective and not as %26quot;formal%26quot; about style +technique as many other Traditional martial arts.
Reply:It%26#039;s not the style. It%26#039;s the man fighting.
Reply:People are gonna say Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu because they watch UFC but I would say without doubt Muay Thai.
In the case of BJJ, if you%26#039;re dealing with more than one person/attacker the others are not going to stand around and wait for you to triangle choke them out one by one. They%26#039;ll all attack you at once.
Muay Thai will teach you how to utilise a clinch enabling you to deliver knees and elbows from close range...much more effective in real life situation than a gogoplata. When delivering strikes aim at your attackers noses, you%26#039;ll be surprised how many people will wheel backwards and not want to fight anymore once their nose is broken.
I hope this helps.
Reply:I would suggest Ba-Gua, I have been a student for 7 years. It is designed specifically to fight more than 1 opponent. I have found it to be a complete system. I have taken Judo and TKD and feel Ba-Gua has much MUCH more to offer.
Reply:You want a stand up striking style. Preferable 1 that has a lot of foot techniques. You would need to keep moving %26amp; use kicks to maintain separation from the attackers.
Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do %26amp; northern Shaolin all fit these requirements.
Reply:I would go with Aikido,That is what it was made to do multiple attackers, and avoid getting hit.When i say multiple attackers I dont mean one at a time. I mean all at once,use your 8 direction%26#039;s of movement. your 12,6,3,9,1,7,11,and 5 o%26#039;clock posistions. When they gather around pick the closest to you.Because more than likely they will be the first to attack.Once they do take there macanics away from them.By either snapping a joint or spinning them around putting them between you and the other attackers.Then throw them back at the rest of the crowd . Giving you time to move for the next attack.Once you either snap a few elbows,wrist,shoulders, they will prob. leave you alone. But if not and they still keep coming.Like I said take there macanics away from them breaking there fingers,wrist,elbows,shoulders,knees,it dont take that mush preasure to break a joint. They can be stronger and bigger than you but there joints break just the same as a smaller persons does.All this may sound harder than Japanese math. but once you start taking Aikido you will soon know how easy it is to take on multiple attackers. I am not saying that it is easy by no means,but with the thing about multiple attackers each and every one of them think that they have you. Instead of only fighting one person. I hope you are getting what Im tring to say here.
The reason that I said Aikido is because I have had to use it on more than once on multiple people at once.I use to be a partol officer and was always getting calls to go out and break up a group of people.
Good Luck on what ever style you choose on taking
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:The styles name is kajukenbo.
Reply:Try Ninjutsu, because you can always throw one of those exploding smoke bomb thingies and run like hell the moment those guys rush you : P
Reply:I think it all comes down to you. are you a foghter? are you aggresive? can you committ to crushing someones knee cap? in group fights all you really need to do is find the leader and crush his knee cap. the others are supposed to run off and get scared.
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